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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 10:39pm
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Bases are loaded, 2 outs. Shortstop is normal position and playing 2 to 3 feet behind the baseline. B1 hits an average groundball back up the middle, which appears to be a base hit. The shortstop miss reads the groundball and breaks up into the baseline. After breaking up into the baseline she then breaks towards the ball which is now up the middle and behind her, but while doing so, the shortstop and R2 runs into each other. You make the call...Is the runner out for interfence because the fielder is breaking towards the ball or is this a no call, or is this a judgement call or is it still consider the fielder is fielding the groundball and the runner must yeild????
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 07:20am
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Bases are loaded, 2 outs. Shortstop is normal position and playing 2 to 3 feet behind the baseline. B1 hits an average groundball back up the middle, which appears to be a base hit. The shortstop miss reads the groundball and breaks up into the baseline. After breaking up into the baseline she then breaks towards the ball which is now up the middle and behind her, but while doing so, the shortstop and R2 runs into each other. You make the call...Is the runner out for interfence because the fielder is breaking towards the ball or is this a no call, or is this a judgement call or is it still consider the fielder is fielding the groundball and the runner must yeild????
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If there is even a remote chance this fielder has a PLAY on the ball, it is interference. Where and when the fielder breaks is irrelevant. The runner should yield.



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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 11:13am
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again like most of these situations--
I'd have to be there to see it:
probably interference !
this is where judgement is important-----
you see a play like this and you think to yourself
"that runner prevented the fielder from fielding"
and you call it right away--
if you have any doubt-- let it slide !
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 11:14am
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Exclamation No interference

Key words here are "behind her". Once the ball has passed a fielder, no interference. We might have obstruction, though. The fielder had opportunity, but blew it. Fielder doesn't have the ball, probably doesn't have a play, and is now in the path of the runner.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 12:43pm
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I've had that play and similar plays in girls' FP. If F6 still has a chance at the ball, it's interference. The way you described it, though, "appears to be a base hit," then "breaks up into the base line," then ball . . . is now . . . behind her," I suspect F6 has lost her chance at it. However, YHTBT.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 12:59pm
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Re: No interference

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Key words here are "behind her". Once the ball has passed a fielder, no interference. We might have obstruction, though. The fielder had opportunity, but blew it. Fielder doesn't have the ball, probably doesn't have a play, and is now in the path of the runner.
Please cite body & rule. It isn't so in ASA. As Grey stated, if the fielder still has the chance to make a play, it is interference.

Don't confuse this with a runner being hit by a batted ball. It isn't the same.

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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 02:09pm
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Exclamation Still no interference

If the ball is "up the middle" and F6 comes in on it, and it is past her, I envision the ball to most likely be well behind 2nd, probably on the outfield grass. I'm sorry, but if this assumption is correct, NO INTERFERENCE, ASA or otherwise. I agree, I may have been too general in my statement "past a fielder." To what degree of a chance are you giving this fielder? No way, unless the runners are as slow as molasses, is this fielder now going to have even the slightest chance of making a play, anywhere.
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 04:48pm
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Re: Still no interference

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If the ball is "up the middle" and F6 comes in on it, and it is past her, I envision the ball to most likely be well behind 2nd, probably on the outfield grass. I'm sorry, but if this assumption is correct, NO INTERFERENCE, ASA or otherwise. I agree, I may have been too general in my statement "past a fielder." To what degree of a chance are you giving this fielder? No way, unless the runners are as slow as molasses, is this fielder now going to have even the slightest chance of making a play, anywhere.
Just like you said, as you "envision" the ball.

All I said was that (a) if the player had the possibility of a play on the ball, it is interference and (b) that the ball getting "behind" the fielder was irrelevant to this rule.

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