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Old Sat Mar 15, 2003, 05:20pm
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I was behind the plate in Fed. ball with one out and a runner on first.The batter hits a grounder to shortstop and the s.s. takes it runs to second steps on the bag and then double clutches and doesn't throw to first.My partner kills it and yells interference saying the s.s. couldn't make a throw because the runner was coming towards her without sliding.I'm not saying he was wrong I just want to be sure other people make that call.
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Old Sat Mar 15, 2003, 06:39pm
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If she didn't throw, no one interfered with the throw.

And let's not give anyone the idea that you have to slide, as opposed to other forms of avoid.
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Old Sat Mar 15, 2003, 07:29pm
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I probably do not have interference on this play, based on the description given. In order for this retired runner to have interfered, she must have done something intentionally and I did not read that there was intent by the retired runner. I'm pretty sure that Fed covers this in Rule 8, Section 6 - dunno which Article. Fed matches ASA on this. The reason that the retired runner must do something intentional to interfere is that the runner is not expected to dissolve or disappear.

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Old Sat Mar 15, 2003, 08:26pm
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Steve M is right on. I do not have any interference as the runner did not intentionally interfere with the play. The real question exists if the fielder threw the ball and hit the retired runner. Even though the runner could be hit, if the runner did not intentionally make contact with the ball, no interference. Now, judgement comes into play big time...is it judged to be intentional if the retired runner just stands there and makes no attempt to get out of the way. I think it could be. You really need to be there on a play like this to make the determination.

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Old Sun Mar 16, 2003, 12:27pm
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I thought the same as you guys when this happened I was just further away so I didn't question my partner.The girl seemed to just be running towards second like she is supposed to did nothing intentional.
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2003, 07:57am
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I have to agree. No interference unless she did something intentional.

Well had my first games yesterday. It's great to be back. Felt like I have been working all year.

I love this game.

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Old Mon Mar 17, 2003, 12:32pm
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I have to agree. No interference unless she did something intentional.

Well had my first games yesterday. It's great to be back. Felt like I have been working all year.

I love this game.

You probably didn't know it, but I was watching
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2003, 07:40pm
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Oh, No, Mike was lurking!



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BTW, did he have a good game?
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2003, 08:39pm
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glen

BTW, did he have a good game?
Of course, he did. Only stayed the first 3 or 4 innings of the first game. They keep the seats in the shade and it wasn't that exciting to keep me warm.

Delaware took two from Dartmouth, but the twilight game went 9 innings. I'm gonna have to collect some beer on that one.

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Old Mon Mar 17, 2003, 09:28pm
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Does that mean Bob's plate game went 9? I'd wanna collect a few beers on that one too.

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Old Tue Mar 18, 2003, 06:54am
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Mike,

No I didn't know you were there. BJ actually told us both good games. Thanks for the kind words. My thighs are sore today.

And NO guys, It wasn't my plate game that went 9 innings.

And, Andy bought me beer oopps, I mean adult beverage after the game.

Another DH today, and one tomorrow if id doesn't rain.

Later
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Old Tue Mar 18, 2003, 06:57am
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Does that mean Bob's plate game went 9? I'd wanna collect a few beers on that one too.

Steve M
Actually, I'm not sure which game went 9 innings since the local paper doesn't really note the games in any particular order.

His partner was the same guy I worked the Men's Major Church NC with a few years back who took a game 11/12 innings then had the nerve to tell the hosts (Alabama) umpires that he NEVER goes extra innings. So my guess is that Bob was on the bases for the long one.

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Old Fri Mar 21, 2003, 09:31am
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At last, a field dry enough to play on, after three postponements. Just a scrimmage with mediocre teams and working by myself, but it went well and no aches or pains afterward. Might have missed a call at 2nd when I couldn't get the angle to tell if the SS had control, but otherwise OK.

BTW, for those who are interested, the NFHS officials forum is back in operation.

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