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MD Longhorn Fri Jun 10, 2011 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by Bandit (Post 764709)
Page?

Again ... book in the car. However, you've been told by EVERYBODY that you are wrong... why don't you crack open the book for the first time and find even the slimmest shred of evidence supporting your contention, and tell US what page it's on. Good luck. You won't.

You're the guy in the elevator facing the back. When told that you're supposed to face front, you say, "Nope, this is the right way." The entire elevator tells you you're wrong. You say, "Prove it". They all point to a sign on the front of the elevator ... behind you. You say, "Can't see that, I'm facing the back."

:rolleyes:

vcblue Fri Jun 10, 2011 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by flipper (Post 764690)
Once I tell a coach that it did hit the knob and "I EVEN heard it", I have doubled down on my call. I can't see me then going to my partners for them to tell me that I didn't see/hear what I saw/heard. If she thought she had enough information to make that call, fine, stick with it. If not, give the batter the benefit of the doubt. Also, I'm not waiting that long to make that call either.

Actually I was referring to the 3-2 pitch where she made no signal, only to call the batter out once she reached 1st. But, since you brought it up, I do think less of a delay between her verbal and signal would be better. Her timing has been a topic of discussion on more than just this board.

So, you're saying that the players must adjust to an inaccurate zone? Wow, I guess the game really is about us. That, IMO, is a lame defense for an umpire.

Yes I have. And you may well be able to pick my game apart. But I'm not touted as the "best of the best".

Flipper... I am done, but we all have strike zones that fluctuate. I am not saying that we should not do our best to have the most accurate zone possible, but sometimes we are off and a college pitcher of a ranked team s/b able to adjust.

KJUmp Fri Jun 10, 2011 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 764737)
Isn't that what I said? It is on page 182 of the 2011 manual. I was in agreement with Wade (starting writing before he made his post) countering Bandit.


Slick....fixed the page number for you.
P.183 is the coverage for Single to OF w/Runner on 1st. P.182 is the coverage for the OP...Hit to INF w/Runner on 1st.

ronald Tue Jun 14, 2011 07:24pm

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 2nd base and ball hit on infield with play going to first base. hp umps primary is 3rd base. move directly up the line and head moves on a swivel. we went over this before.

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second.

luvthegame Wed Jun 15, 2011 01:04am

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Originally Posted by ronald (Post 765648)
From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 2nd base and ball hit on infield with play going to first base. hp umps primary is 3rd base. move directly up the line and head moves on a swivel. we went over this before.

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second.

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson.

Then where should the 3b umpire go?

Did we go over this before?

IRISHMAFIA Wed Jun 15, 2011 06:43am

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Originally Posted by luvthegame (Post 765691)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald
From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 2nd base and ball hit on infield with play going to first base. hp umps primary is 3rd base. move directly up the line and head moves on a swivel. we went over this before.

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second.

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson.

Then where should the 3b umpire go?

Did we go over this before?

I don't know, I saw two scenarios cited in your response. Once there is a runner starts on 2B, U3 goes nowhere, unless out on a fly ball down LF line, the PU goes no where unless to make a fair/foul, catch/no catch on the RF line.

Bandit Wed Jun 15, 2011 08:33am

"From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second."

Isn't this what I said?

ronald Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:45pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 765747)
I don't know, I saw two scenarios cited in your response. Once there is a runner starts on 2B, U3 goes nowhere, unless out on a fly ball down LF line, the PU goes no where unless to make a fair/foul, catch/no catch on the RF line.

guess i did not notice you guys were discussing 3man.


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