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RKBUmp Mon May 09, 2011 01:21pm

While my hearing isnt horrible, I have some significant loss in higher frequencies and started wearing hearing aids about 3 months ago. My wife got tired of me not understanding what she was saying. I have worn them on the bases but had never worn them at the plate until a couple of weeks ago. I heard all kinds of stuff coming from the fans I had not realized was going on before. Think maybe I will just not wear them at the plate anymore. I guess ignorance can be bliss sometimes.

Little Jimmy Mon May 09, 2011 06:36pm

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Someone Please Remind Me Why I Umpire???
The chicks?

NCASAUmp Mon May 09, 2011 09:03pm

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Originally Posted by Little Jimmy (Post 757384)
The chicks?

Better be calling NCAA. :p

marvin Mon May 09, 2011 10:00pm

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 757295)
The comments I was referring to were comments of ignorance and/or stupidity.

If any of the comments fell into the areas you mention, they would have been dealt with immediately, either by myself, or the tournament staff, or both. The AIA (state association) has a program called Victory With Honor that all member schools adhere to. Unsportsmanlike actions and/or comments, both on and off the field, are dealt with swiftly.

Thanks! That's the way it should be.

derwil Mon May 09, 2011 11:08pm

Ongoing drama...............
 
On a continuing note....found out that the idiots that were screaming at my partner and myself apparently thought it was slow pitch league night because they were caught with adult beverages where they were sitting (right field on the other side of the fence in foul territory). I already filled out the paperwork with the state and I believe that team "B" is doing the same.

CecilOne Tue May 10, 2011 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by marvin (Post 757260)
If the comments where just a display of ignorance I can understand you walking away rather than start a confrontation.

If the comments were unsportsmanlike or in any way could be construed as an attack on the umpires then why wouldn't you deal with it as UIC? Bad behavior which is not challenged becomes acceptable behavior. Stopping such behavior before it spreads could head off an ugly scene later.

How do you all feel about doing anything about spectators who keep yelling "illegal pitch", "out of the box", "left early", etc. to the point where the players seem to start being over-cautious about those infractions?

MD Longhorn Tue May 10, 2011 02:49pm

I see no spectators. To whom are you referring?

HugoTafurst Tue May 10, 2011 08:47pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 757628)
How do you all feel about doing anything about spectators who keep yelling "illegal pitch", "out of the box", "left early", etc. to the point where the players seem to start being over-cautious about those infractions?


HTBT:D:D:D

But in general, I don't get paid to do anything about spectators.

marvin Wed May 11, 2011 12:01am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 757628)
How do you all feel about doing anything about spectators who keep yelling "illegal pitch", "out of the box", "left early", etc. to the point where the players seem to start being over-cautious about those infractions?

For others who replied to CecilOne's post - my original comments were directed to someone who was acting as a UIC and was "outside the fence" in the spectators area.

I tend to not hear stuff from the stands - so if I do hear things it usually means it is bad.

Example: I had to speak to the site administrator at a high school game because some of the fans (a group of high school boys) were calling players on the other team names loud enough for everyone in the ball park to hear. The site admin was the Vice principal of the school and took care of it.

I have had to call the TD the the field at a summer tourney when a fan just kept yelling after a call he disagreed with, "That sucks, that sucks" over and over at the top of his lungs. This was at a 12 and under game. After the TD escorted him from the field he kept following her around calling her names until someone called the cops.

In the case that CecilOne describes at a summer tourney I would speak to the coach see if it could be handled that way and then call the TD or UIC. During a high school game I would ask the site administrator to deal with it. I don't deal with fans, there are people who have that responsibility. I mean how unsportsmanlike is it that adults intimidate children while they are playing a game?

People can be idiots - as an league officer I had to threaten to clear the stands at a t-ball game because the parents were ready to get into a fist fight.

azbigdawg Wed May 11, 2011 02:18am

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 757216)
Derwill...I feel your pain, but from a different angle.

Saturday, I was the UIC for State Tournament games at our 6 field complex.
Umpires from all over the state coming in for games and I'm trying to watch several different crews, some games in 3 umpire, on six different fields.

There were several times I just had to walk away from a field to keep from saying something in response to stupid fan comments about the umpires, rules, calls, etc....

You hear some of the stuff when you're on the field, and you can just kind of shake your head and laugh....there is so much more that is said that the umpires don't hear that is just as, if not more, stupid!

I almost started handing out cards inviting people to sign up to umpire with our association...after all, they were already experts! :rolleyes:

Ive been giving them your name for years....I'm sure they have it already....

IRISHMAFIA Wed May 11, 2011 07:23am

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Originally Posted by marvin (Post 757769)
Example: I had to speak to the site administrator at a high school game because some of the fans (a group of high school boys) were calling players on the other team names loud enough for everyone in the ball park to hear. The site admin was the Vice principal of the school and took care of it.

If the site admin was on site, why was there a need for you to talk to him/her? Apparently, the VP wasn't administrating the site very well.

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People can be idiots - as an league officer I had to threaten to clear the stands at a t-ball game because the parents were ready to get into a fist fight.
Well, there is your answer. Get rid of the parents and I guarantee, it will be a better game and that includes from the coaches because there is no one there to impress other than the players and they know a pretender long before the parents figure it out.

Skahtboi Wed May 11, 2011 09:22am

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Originally Posted by Little Jimmy (Post 757384)
The chicks?

I love umpire groupies! :)

marvin Wed May 11, 2011 11:41am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 757833)
If the site admin was on site, why was there a need for you to talk to him/her? Apparently, the VP wasn't administrating the site very well.
. . . .

Multiple contests on multiple fields.

HugoTafurst Wed May 11, 2011 12:30pm

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Originally Posted by Little Jimmy (Post 757384)
The chicks?

Oh, I wish.......

MD Longhorn Wed May 11, 2011 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by marvin (Post 757883)
Multiple contests on multiple fields.

So there's a REASON they weren't doing their job... they still weren't doing it though. If they can't handle multiple fields, they need multiple people.


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