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IRISHMAFIA Thu Apr 28, 2011 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 754111)
continuing with the digression

Speaking of Texas.... Asleep at the Wheel played at out town's Art Festival last week!! ahhhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaa

Yeah, they just played here two weeks ago. And to continue with the theme, Marcia Ball will visit over the summer

tcannizzo Thu Apr 28, 2011 05:10pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 754083)
Wrong picture, Tony.

Here's Mike Rowe

I wasn't posting a picture of Mike, it is what the world's most interesting man has to say...:cool:

HugoTafurst Fri Apr 29, 2011 06:38am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 754205)
Yeah, they just played here two weeks ago. And to continue with the theme, Marcia Ball will visit over the summer

You may be a rude SOB, nut you have great taste in Music!!
;)

IRISHMAFIA Fri Apr 29, 2011 07:05am

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Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 754336)
You may be a rude SOB, nut you have great taste in Music!!
;)

You would be shocked......oh, and BTW, bite me :D j/k

HugoTafurst Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:07am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 754342)
You would be shocked......oh, and BTW, bite me :D j/k

:p

Gulf Coast Blue Sat Apr 30, 2011 03:41pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 754092)
Good, but over-rated.

Yeah.....there are quite a few better ice creams out there. But for a reasonably priced product. It is hard to beat.

Joel

jr131981 Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:15pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 753460)
So you perpetuate ignorance?

Would you refer to an IP in a softball game as a balk if that is what the coach believes it is?

Do you rule interference on an OBS call because that is what the players think it is?

Nope, cannot agree with you. Next thing you know, you will be referring to R3 as the runner on 3B, R2 as the runner on 2B or R1 as the runner on 1B.

i never understood why softball went out of their way to add an extra step in describing the runners by using "RX is on Y base" when you could just use the baseball way and simply say "RX" where X is the base they are on. in case i didnt now write that well, why make the description of the runners longer and potentially more confusing. 1st and 3rd sounds a lot easy and better saying "R1 R3" than saying "R1 on thirdbase and R2 on firstbase"

IRISHMAFIA Mon Aug 22, 2011 06:46am

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Originally Posted by jr131981 (Post 782770)
i never understood why softball went out of their way to add an extra step in describing the runners by using "RX is on Y base" when you could just use the baseball way and simply say "RX" where X is the base they are on. in case i didnt now write that well, why make the description of the runners longer and potentially more confusing. 1st and 3rd sounds a lot easy and better saying "R1 R3" than saying "R1 on thirdbase and R2 on firstbase"

By designating a player by the manner in which they participated in the game/inning you can have a continual scenario without changing a player's designation.

In baseball, if bases are loaded and each runner advances a base, R2 is now R3, R1 is R2 and the BR which was the B is now R1. In softball, B4 becomes a BR and then is R4. This indicates that R4 was the 4th batter of that inning and no matter what happens, will be designated by the "4" throughout the inning.

It also make sense that one comes before two, two comes before three, etc.

I find this much easier to follow when going through scenarios.

Skahtboi Mon Aug 22, 2011 09:36am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 754205)
Yeah, they just played here two weeks ago. And to continue with the theme, Marcia Ball will visit over the summer

One hell of a performer, if you have never seen her. If you have, well, disregard my previous comment.

Dakota Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:43am

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Originally Posted by jr131981 (Post 782770)
i never understood why softball went out of their way to add an extra step in describing the runners by using "RX is on Y base" when you could just use the baseball way and simply say "RX" where X is the base they are on. in case i didnt now write that well, why make the description of the runners longer and potentially more confusing. 1st and 3rd sounds a lot easy and better saying "R1 R3" than saying "R1 on thirdbase and R2 on firstbase"

The argument over which is better is irrelevant. I didn't invent the softball nomenclature, and it is unlikely to change. Therefore, use it when discussing softball scenarios. To do otherwise disrespects the game and hints of elitism.

Rachel Mon Aug 22, 2011 05:42pm

The way calling IP's was explained to me was:

Call what happens first.
hands together when stepping on the pitchers plate
stepping back
stepping forward
not dragging

I am sure there are others.

If they fix the first then don't fix the next then call that.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Sep 01, 2011 07:16am

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Originally Posted by Rachel (Post 782989)
The way calling IP's was explained to me was:

Call what happens first.
hands together when stepping on the pitchers plate
stepping back
stepping forward
not dragging

I am sure there are others.

If they fix the first then don't fix the next then call that.


Here is the issue. There is no prescribed remedy to fix any of them that I can find. The mere described action is an IP. Nowhere does it state the IP is delayed pending possible correction.

youngump Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 784902)
Here is the issue. There is no prescribed remedy to fix any of them that I can find. The mere described action is an IP. Nowhere does it state the IP is delayed pending possible correction.

I read that differently than you did. Call the first pitch illegal for the first thing that makes it illegal. If on the subsequent pitch, they fix the first thing, call the second thing. Etc.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Sep 01, 2011 08:02pm

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 784987)
I read that differently than you did. Call the first pitch illegal for the first thing that makes it illegal. If on the subsequent pitch, they fix the first thing, call the second thing. Etc.

Okay, I can see it reading that way and agree.


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