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HugoTafurst Thu Mar 10, 2011 05:30pm

NCAA DeMarini Phenix
 
(NCAA Community College) Was presented with a DeMarini Phenix last night could not find (nor could the coach show me) any CFPx (model number) or CFx (-xx) Model on the bat.
It had ASA 2004.
I didn't allow it (despite the fact that the coach assurred me it had been allowed in the previous 38 games his team had played :rolleyes:)

Anyone familiar with this bat?

IRISHMAFIA Thu Mar 10, 2011 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 738840)
(NCAA Community College) Was presented with a DeMarini Phenix last night could not find (nor could the coach show me) any CFPx (model number) or CFx (-xx) Model on the bat.
It had ASA 2004.
I didn't allow it (despite the fact that the coach assurred me it had been allowed in the previous 38 games his team had played :rolleyes:)

Anyone familiar with this bat?

From what I understand, the Phenix was not placed on the NCAA list because it was out of production. Cannot vouch for accuracy of that reason.

AtlUmpSteve Thu Mar 10, 2011 05:39pm

Yes, I am.

DeMarini has NOT approved the Phenix bats with NCAA. They no longer make them, so no sales potential to make it valuable to approve.

You did right.

Hey, has anyone else EVER been told you were the only one to not allow something?

HugoTafurst Thu Mar 10, 2011 05:58pm

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Originally Posted by atlumpsteve (Post 738846)
hey, has anyone else ever been told you were the only one to not allow something?


:d ;) :d

And thanks for the info

IRISHMAFIA Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 738846)
Hey, has anyone else EVER been told you were the only one to not allow something?

I'm the only umpire to ever:

Ask for a line-up card

Check the bats

Call (insert violation here) an illegal pitch

Insist on the ball coming out of my bag instead of the dugout

Tell the team to wear the uniform properly

yada, yada, yada.

youngump Fri Mar 11, 2011 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 739061)
I'm the only umpire to ever:

Insist on the ball coming out of my bag instead of the dugout

What do you mean by this one? I've never had a team try to tell me that I wasn't supposed to keep the game balls. Except during a rainstorm they might offer if they have a towel, and I'd tend to say go ahead since it can get fairly wet up here. Something wrong there?
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Hotksu4You

derwil Fri Mar 11, 2011 01:35pm

Sometimes the coaches will send in return fouls balls from the dugout. Last week at a HS tournament, this was done in a rain storm. Honestly I didn't think anything of it. After the inning, I went and picked up the ball trying to keep it dry. To my amazement, it was an NSA "Shark" ball - not approved for HS ball. The coach said it was a ball from their practice balls and it was an honest mistake. The only mistake was on my side - I should have never assumed the coaches would get it right on their own. Leson learned.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Mar 11, 2011 05:44pm

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Originally Posted by derwil (Post 739078)
Sometimes the coaches will send in return fouls balls from the dugout. Last week at a HS tournament, this was done in a rain storm. Honestly I didn't think anything of it. After the inning, I went and picked up the ball trying to keep it dry. To my amazement, it was an NSA "Shark" ball - not approved for HS ball. The coach said it was a ball from their practice balls and it was an honest mistake. The only mistake was on my side - I should have never assumed the coaches would get it right on their own. Leason learned.

I actually worry more about the AA teams.

Inthegame Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:43am

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 739067)
What do you mean by this one? I've never had a team try to tell me that I wasn't supposed to keep the game balls. Except during a rainstorm they might offer if they have a towel, and I'd tend to say go ahead since it can get fairly wet up here. Something wrong there?

Well - this is why I have ALL game balls come "through my bag"
Ran out of game balls - three foul balls out of fences. Defensive coach throws a ball to his pitcher. I ask to inspect ball & it was a "mush" ball - not a game ball. I threw it back to the coach.

He said it was his "mistake." The b**ch of it was - this coach was/is a personal friend of mine and an instructor for my DD.

I guess that is why game balls go thru me. With rain I might make an exception.

My 2.5 cents


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