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Old Wed Aug 11, 2010, 11:37am
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The day this happened, each umpire was scheduled for 4 - 6 games (5 for me that day). Umpires were coming off of one game and heading right back out for the next one...Not only were we working a bunch of back-to-backs, but we were working during a day that started with a 4-hour rain delay and 2 of the 12 diamonds were shut down that day due to unplayable conditions. We were in survival mode that day...One day I didn't get off the diamond until 2:10 a.m....
Do you think that maybe mental and physical fatigue contributed to this being missed or not being handled the same as it might have been if you had a fresh, well-rested crew?

I understand "survival mode"- we've all been there before. I also think that as the number of games pile up, the chances of missing something, not being as alert, not communicating as effectively or flat out blowing a call go up too.
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Old Wed Aug 11, 2010, 12:22pm
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OK, what woud YOU do...

... if you're the BU, and you signal 2 outs and your partner signals back 1 out.

Do you call TIME and discuss it, or do you ASSume you must have it wrong?

How about the count... your partner gives the count, you disagree. Again, do you call TIME and discuss it, or do you ASSume you must have it wrong?
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Old Wed Aug 11, 2010, 12:53pm
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... if you're the BU, and you signal 2 outs and your partner signals back 1 out.

Do you call TIME and discuss it, or do you ASSume you must have it wrong?
Possibly. If I vividly remember the outs, and/or if the number of outs matters (runner on 1st or more).

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How about the count... your partner gives the count, you disagree. Again, do you call TIME and discuss it, or do you ASSume you must have it wrong?
No, almost never. I assume I'm wrong and he's right. I can imagine doing this if I've got a new batter or maybe 1 pitch into a new batter, and he flashes a 2-2 or 3-2, especially if something odd happened that could have messed one of us up.

I would also say I'm much less apt to do this with some partners than with others. Wrong as that may be.
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Old Wed Aug 11, 2010, 01:11pm
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Radio,
2:10 AM.....OMG, were you taking straight IV's of black coffee?

Seriously though, congrats on your 7th National (all FP?). Have a great offseason and good luck next year...hope you get #8.

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Old Wed Aug 11, 2010, 01:46pm
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Radio,
2:10 AM.....OMG, were you taking straight IV's of black coffee?

Seriously though, congrats on your 7th National (all FP?). Have a great offseason and good luck next year...hope you get #8.

KJ
My game wasn't the last of the day!! There was one after me that started at 2:20-ish and didn't complete until after 3:30. One of those umpires was back on the diamond at 8:00 a.m.!!

It was brutal ... but we're now kinda like a band of brothers and sisters. We all went through it and came out alive.

Yes, all of my Nationals have been JO ball. I've been fortunate to work 10s, 12s, 14s (twice), 18s, plus two Northern Nationals.
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Old Wed Aug 11, 2010, 01:13pm
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Do you think that maybe mental and physical fatigue contributed to this being missed or not being handled the same as it might have been if you had a fresh, well-rested crew?

I understand "survival mode"- we've all been there before. I also think that as the number of games pile up, the chances of missing something, not being as alert, not communicating as effectively or flat out blowing a call go up too.
Certainly a factor. Great point Bret.
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