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NCBBUmp Tue Aug 03, 2010 09:39pm

Illegal Pitch?
 
Who agrees? Move the rubber back to 50 ft. and let the pitcher do whatever she wants as long as she doesn't go overhand. They want us to call illegal pitches, but it's the end of the world when the rules of the game are enforced.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Aug 03, 2010 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by NCBBUmp (Post 687804)
Who agrees? Move the rubber back to 50 ft. and let the pitcher do whatever she wants as long as she doesn't go overhand. They want us to call illegal pitches, but it's the end of the world when the rules of the game are enforced.

You are just a little late. I've been saying the same thing for a few years now.

SC Ump Wed Aug 04, 2010 03:00am

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Originally Posted by NCBBUmp (Post 687804)
... whatever she wants as long as...

Well, if it was a good idea, you broke it right there. You've still got things for us to enforce and for them to whine about.

And by the way, there are some in other organizations that have already tried setting the pitching distance to 10½ feet further back, allowing them to throw overhand, and they still have pitching rules to enforce.

JefferMC Thu Aug 05, 2010 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by SC Ump (Post 687821)
And by the way, there are some in other organizations that have already tried setting the pitching distance to 10½ feet further back, allowing them to throw overhand, and they still have pitching rules to enforce.

Yeah, but they don't call the infraction an illegal pitch. I think they use a four letter word.

BretMan Thu Aug 05, 2010 08:06pm

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Originally Posted by JefferMC (Post 687931)
Yeah, but they don't call the infraction an illegal pitch. I think they use a four letter word.

Sure they do. They only use that four-letter word when there are runners on base!

VA-Blu Mon Aug 16, 2010 09:56am

Illegal Pitch
 
Why not make the men and women fast pitch, pitching rule the same or the same as the ISA rule, the distance for women is fine at 43 feet across the board ASA 18, 18Gold, NFHS, and College, if you ask me. IMHO.

Thanks
VA

IRISHMAFIA Mon Aug 16, 2010 04:50pm

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Originally Posted by VA-Blu (Post 688842)
Why not make the men and women fast pitch, pitching rule the same or the same as the ISA rule, the distance for women is fine at 43 feet across the board ASA 18, 18Gold, NFHS, and College, if you ask me. IMHO.

Thanks
VA

Why?

AtlUmpSteve Mon Aug 16, 2010 09:04pm

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Originally Posted by VA-Blu (Post 688842)
Why not make the men and women fast pitch, pitching rule the same or the same as the ISA rule, the distance for women is fine at 43 feet across the board ASA 18, 18Gold, NFHS, and College, if you ask me. IMHO.

Thanks
VA

Since I don't believe ISA is played in Virginia, I doubt that is what you mean. I suspect you mean ISF.

You weren't real clear, anyway. I think you might support if you are saying loosen up the female pitching rule to match the men; if you mean make the men pitch like the women, whatever little men's fastpitch remains will disappear completely.

tcannizzo Wed Aug 18, 2010 09:36pm

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Originally Posted by SC Ump (Post 687821)
And by the way, there are some in other organizations that have already tried setting the pitching distance to 10½ feet further back, allowing them to throw overhand, and they still have pitching rules to enforce.

Yeah, but wouldn't that do away with LBR?:eek:

wadeintothem Thu Aug 19, 2010 08:01am

50' is too far. "Letting them do whatever they want" is not unique, its most "nonchampionship" men's FP and its ugly. Hows a nice step then crowhop (Ie double crowhop) sound?. The problem with changing pitching mechanics is we need similar rules as NCAA so these girls are not disadvantaged by playing ASA. But if the NCAA and ASA got on board with requiring the toe to stay down but allow separation (essentially get rid of leap) and allowing the nonpivot foot to be off the rubber, I would be very pleased.

Dutch Alex Thu Aug 19, 2010 08:22am

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 688912)
Since I don't believe ISA is played in Virginia, I doubt that is what you mean. I suspect you mean ISF.

You weren't real clear, anyway. I think you might support if you are saying loosen up the female pitching rule to match the men; if you mean make the men pitch like the women, whatever little men's fastpitch remains will disappear completely.

I've worked all season with the ISF-rules. Pitchers still try to gain some advantage and therefor have some IP's. And do I wonder?: They complain if it's seen and called!


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