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NPRIVITOR Sun Mar 21, 2010 05:27pm

DP/Flex Final Question
 
moved to new thread this question..

Thank you all that answered my previous post regarding the Flex/DP. I've looked through all the previous posts and still have one additional question. My brother was certainly correct that you guys have the info and I certainly appreciate you taking the time to respond. I plan on using this scenario in the State Playoffs this year and need some input as to its validity.

Line Up Card
Num Name Pos
1 Angie 1
2 Barbie 2
3 Casey 8
4 Darla DP
5..9 ...
10 Julie (Flex) 3

At the start of the first inning, Darla (DP) goes in on defense and plays for Casey. Throughout the entire game, Casey actually stays on the bench for Defense but bats on Offense. I do this so that I have a fast running Flex tied to my DP. Had Darla not been a DP since she's not a pitcher or catcher, the only way I can put a fast runner in the game for her when she gets on base is to substitute. I don't have any other speed other than my Flex who I need on Defense only.

So when we come up on offense, Angie hits a single and gets on base. I immediately bring my Flex in to run for her. Julie is still my Flex and has not left game. I do this throughout the game with Angie and Julie. Angie hits 3 times and gets on base, Julie runs 3 times for her.

Do you guys see anything wrong with playing in this manner? On a previous post someone made a great example of considering the "bench" as a defensive position when playing with a Flex.

Thanks again!

JEL Sun Mar 21, 2010 05:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NPRIVITOR (Post 669651)
moved to new thread this question..

Thank you all that answered my previous post regarding the Flex/DP. I've looked through all the previous posts and still have one additional question. My brother was certainly correct that you guys have the info and I certainly appreciate you taking the time to respond. I plan on using this scenario in the State Playoffs this year and need some input as to its validity.

Line Up Card
Num Name Pos
1 Angie 1
2 Barbie 2
3 Casey 8
4 Darla DP
5..9 ...
10 Julie (Flex) 3

At the start of the first inning, Darla (DP) goes in on defense and plays for Casey. Throughout the entire game, Casey actually stays on the bench for Defense but bats on Offense. I do this so that I have a fast running Flex tied to my DP. Had Darla not been a DP since she's not a pitcher or catcher, the only way I can put a fast runner in the game for her when she gets on base is to substitute. I don't have any other speed other than my Flex who I need on Defense only.

So when we come up on offense, Angie hits a single and gets on base. I immediately bring my Flex in to run for her. Julie is still my Flex and has not left game. I do this throughout the game with Angie and Julie. Angie hits 3 times and gets on base, Julie runs 3 times for her.

Do you guys see anything wrong with playing in this manner? On a previous post someone made a great example of considering the "bench" as a defensive position when playing with a Flex.

Thanks again!


Won't work coach. Angie is not the DP. The FLEX can only enter on offense in the DP slot.

SethPDX Sun Mar 21, 2010 05:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NPRIVITOR (Post 669651)
So when we come up on offense, Angie hits a single and gets on base. I immediately bring my Flex in to run for her. Julie is still my Flex and has not left game. I do this throughout the game with Angie and Julie. Angie hits 3 times and gets on base, Julie runs 3 times for her.

Do you guys see anything wrong with playing in this manner? On a previous post someone made a great example of considering the "bench" as a defensive position when playing with a Flex.

Thanks again!

The way you have your lineup that is not allowed. When you bring in the Flex to run, the Flex is on offense, and the only player the Flex may run or bat for is the DP. The DP and Flex may not be on offense at the same time.

If you want someone to run for your F1, as in your question, you can have a courtesy runner for the pitcher (a player who has never been in the game at any position), or you can bring in an actual substitute to run.

NPRIVITOR Sun Mar 21, 2010 06:01pm

Re worded
 
as important as this question is to me, I cannot believe that I misworded it.. Please offer your advice one more time.

Line Up Card
Num Name Pos
1 Angie 1
2 Barbie 2
3 Casey 8
4 Darla DP
5..9 ...
10 Julie (Flex) 3

At the start of the first inning, Darla (DP) goes in on defense and plays for Casey. Throughout the entire game, Casey actually stays on the bench for Defense but bats on Offense. I do this so that I have a fast running Flex tied to my DP. Had Darla not been a DP since she's not a pitcher or catcher, the only way I can put a fast runner in the game for her when she gets on base is to substitute. I don't have any other speed other than my Flex who I need on Defense only.

So when we come up on offense, DARLA hits a single and gets on base. I immediately bring my Flex in to run for her. Julie is still my Flex and has not left game. I do this throughout the game with DARLA and Julie. DARLA hits 3 times and gets on base, Julie runs 3 times for her.

Do you guys see anything wrong with playing in this manner? On a previous post someone made a great example of considering the "bench" as a defensive position when playing with a Flex.

.

Az.Ump Sun Mar 21, 2010 08:03pm

Darla can only re-enter once. When she leaves the second time she is done for the game. If you subbed for Darla with a legal sub you could do it. When Darla (the DP) leaves that is a substitution.

Paul

NPRIVITOR Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:07pm

leaves the game?
 
In the scenario, when does Darla leave the game?

Az.Ump Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:24pm

When the Flex runs for her. Running the bases is part of being on offense.

Paul

RadioBlue Tue Mar 23, 2010 02:44pm

In your scenario, Darla could only reach base twice before she would be done for the day (assuming you run your FLEX for her each time she reaches).

IRISHMAFIA Tue Mar 23, 2010 05:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioBlue (Post 670156)
In your scenario, Darla could only reach base twice before she would be done for the day (assuming you run your FLEX for her each time she reaches).

Ask Alfafa. Darla can do whatever Darla wants! :rolleyes:

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CecilOne Wed Mar 24, 2010 06:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by NPRIVITOR (Post 669660)
as important as this question is to me, I cannot believe that I misworded it.. Please offer your advice one more time.

Line Up Card
Num Name Pos
1 Angie 1
2 Barbie 2
3 Casey 8
4 Darla DP
5..9 ...
10 Julie (Flex) 3

At the start of the first inning, Darla (DP) goes in on defense and plays for Casey. Throughout the entire game, Casey actually stays on the bench for Defense but bats on Offense. I do this so that I have a fast running Flex tied to my DP. Had Darla not been a DP since she's not a pitcher or catcher, the only way I can put a fast runner in the game for her when she gets on base is to substitute. I don't have any other speed other than my Flex who I need on Defense only.

So when we come up on offense, DARLA hits a single and gets on base. I immediately bring my Flex in to run for her. Julie is still my Flex and has not left game. I do this throughout the game with DARLA and Julie. DARLA hits 3 times and gets on base, Julie runs 3 times for her.

Do you guys see anything wrong with playing in this manner? On a previous post someone made a great example of considering the "bench" as a defensive position when playing with a Flex.

.

Mike's post tells me we have resolved this exhaustively, but I can't resist summarizing.

No problem with Darla playing defense for F8 and Casey batting third, with Darla batting fourth; as the batting order says.

Julie as FLEX, can run for Darla as DP. However, Darla/DP has left the game when Julie/FLEX runs for her. Darla can only return once, like any other player. So, when Darla returns to the game, offense or defense, she has used her re-entry.

If Julie (or anyone else) runs for Darla at her second at-bat, Darla is finished for that game and may not re-enter again, offense or defense.

The FLEX and DP role/position/designation still continue, but now either Julie (or whoever else ran for Darla the second time) must bat in the fourth slot or another previously unused player may bat for her.


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