again and again

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Batter swings at a pitch, hitting it first with her fingers around the bat, THEN with the bat near her fingers.

Apparently, there are some umps that do not know the correct call.
Do you?

Come on....a newbie not knowing this, I can understand, maybe. But a vet??
We're talking umpiring 101 here no matter what rule set, or for that matter, what type of game, (it's the same for baseball).
Irish's reply should for be required reading for any new umpire starting out. Read it, memorize it, never forget it, and rely on it anytime you find yourself in a "ball hits the batter's hands" situations.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Come on....a newbie not knowing this, I can understand, maybe. But a vet??
We're talking umpiring 101 here no matter what rule set, or for that matter, what type of game, (it's the same for baseball).
Irish's reply should for be required reading for any new umpire starting out. Read it, memorize it, never forget it, and rely on it anytime you find yourself in a "ball hits the batter's hands" situations.

I once had this discussion with an umpire who worked a lot of HS & college ball and a little ASA SP.

At a FP tournament, he told me that, just like in baseball, the hands are part of the bat! Now, here is a guy in his late 40/early 50's who works allegedly high-level ball making an argument like an 8 yo on the playground.

Happened to be the UIC of the tournament, so I had a rule book handy. Opened right up and showed him that the hands were not part of the bat. He just waived his hand at me and told me I had no idea what I was talking about.

Go figure, then again, he is a politician, so truth and common sense were of absolutely no use here.