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Shmuelg Sun Feb 21, 2010 09:17am
Yet Another DTK Interference Question
 
Sitch:
R1 on 1st, R2 on 2nd. No outs. Count on the batter 0 and 2. Comes in strike three (PU calls "strike three, you're out"), and the catcher drops it. Batter-runner automatically runs to first (it is obvious that it is an automatic response and no nefarious intent was shown), and the catcher recovers the ball, throws to first. Overthrow, and the ball goes into right field. R1 scores, R2 ends up on 3rd base.
What is the call?

Do we say that the B-R is out (or rather R2 is out, because he is closest to home, and the B-R is out anyway) because of interference, or do we let the play stand, claiming that the players should know the rules and the situation?

Steve M Sun Feb 21, 2010 09:28am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmuelg (Post 663436)
Sitch:
R1 on 1st, R2 on 2nd. No outs. Count on the batter 0 and 2. Comes in strike three (PU calls "strike three, you're out"), and the catcher drops it. Batter-runner automatically runs to first (it is obvious that it is an automatic response and no nefarious intent was shown), and the catcher recovers the ball, throws to first. Overthrow, and the ball goes into right field. R1 scores, R2 ends up on 3rd base.
What is the call?

Do we say that the B-R is out (or rather R2 is out, because he is closest to home, and the B-R is out anyway) because of interference, or do we let the play stand, claiming that the players should know the rules and the situation?
The play stands - that's nothing but a DMC - dumb move by the catcher.

Shmuelg Sun Feb 21, 2010 09:57am
What about ISF Rule 8, Sec.9 (n):

n. When, after a runner, batter or batter-runner has been declared out, or after a runner has scored, the runner, batter or batter-runner interferes with a defensive player’s opportunity to make a play on another runner. A runner continuing to run and drawing a throw will be considered a form of interference.

That's why I'm asking the question, actually. It seems to me that according to this, an interference call should be made, although it goes against my intuition.

HugoTafurst Sun Feb 21, 2010 01:48pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmuelg (Post 663441)
What about ISF Rule 8, Sec.9 (n):

n. When, after a runner, batter or batter-runner has been declared out, or after a runner has scored, the runner, batter or batter-runner interferes with a defensive player’s opportunity to make a play on another runner. A runner continuing to run and drawing a throw will be considered a form of interference.

That's why I'm asking the question, actually. It seems to me that according to this, an interference call should be made, although it goes against my intuition.
That is why it is always good to post which rule set you are referring to.

The similar NFHS rule for instance specifically states that running on the dropped third strike rule is NOT interference.
I am not familiar with IFS interpretation.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Feb 21, 2010 01:57pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmuelg (Post 663441)
What about ISF Rule 8, Sec.9 (n):

n. When, after a runner, batter or batter-runner has been declared out, or after a runner has scored, the runner, batter or batter-runner interferes with a defensive player’s opportunity to make a play on another runner. A runner continuing to run and drawing a throw will be considered a form of interference.

That's why I'm asking the question, actually. It seems to me that according to this, an interference call should be made, although it goes against my intuition.
That is 8.9.O, but it would have helped if you specified ISF Rules.

ncaaumpdj Sun Feb 21, 2010 03:45pm
PU should be saying "Strike Three" thats it....dropped third strike allows BR to make an attempt to first. PU screwed up by saying Shes out. PU should be patient and make sure ball is caught before saying shes out. Ball is still live making other runners advance legal.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Feb 21, 2010 03:59pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ncaaumpdj (Post 663534)
PU should be saying "Strike Three" thats it....dropped third strike allows BR to make an attempt to first. PU screwed up by saying Shes out. PU should be patient and make sure ball is caught before saying shes out. Ball is still live making other runners advance legal.
While I agree that should not be part of the regular third strike call, the umpire was correct. 1B was occupied with less than 2 outs.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Feb 21, 2010 04:02pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmuelg (Post 663436)
sitch:
r1 on 1st, r2 on 2nd. No outs. Count on the batter 0 and 2. ?

????

ncaaumpdj Sun Feb 21, 2010 05:04pm
agreed, should have read better lol

KJUmp Wed Feb 24, 2010 08:35pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 663504)
That is why it is always good to post which rule set you are referring to.

The similar NFHS rule for instance specifically states that running on the dropped third strike rule is NOT interference.
I am not familiar with IFS interpretation.
I cannot find a specific interpretation for this sitch under NCAA rules.


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