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Stevetheump Sun Jan 17, 2010 05:46pm

Recruiting new umpires................
 
Does anyone out there have any proven methods of attracting new umpires, esp the younger guys & gals?
If so, let me know. We need umpires.

KJUmp Sun Jan 17, 2010 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by Stevetheump (Post 652490)
Does anyone out there have any proven methods of attracting new umpires, esp the younger guys & gals?
If so, let me know. We need umpires.

Yes. Feel free to PM me. Gibe me the specifics of your situation in your message.

Stevetheump Sun Jan 17, 2010 07:26pm

PMing............
 
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Originally Posted by KJUmp (Post 652517)
Yes. Feel free to PM me. Gibe me the specifics of your situation in your message.

I'm new to the board and not sure how to PM, KB.

NCASAUmp Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:04pm

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Originally Posted by Stevetheump (Post 652519)
I'm new to the board and not sure how to PM, KB.

Click on his name, then click on "Send a private message to KJUmp."

wadeintothem Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:54am

With the economy the way it is, I've not noticed a shortage of new umpires in my area.

NCASAUmp Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:03am

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 652737)
With the economy the way it is, I've not noticed a shortage of new umpires in my area.

Nor I. In fact, some places are seeing a surplus, and others are coming out of retirement.

dtwsd Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:15am

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Originally Posted by Stevetheump (Post 652490)
Does anyone out there have any proven methods of attracting new umpires, esp the younger guys & gals?
If so, let me know. We need umpires.

Our association has been posting adds in Craigslist for the past 3 seasons and have gotten a pretty good response from that.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jan 18, 2010 06:36pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 652602)
Click on his name, then click on "Send a private message to KJUmp."

While you are clicking on things, can you turn off the BOLD or change the font?

Thank you.

SethPDX Mon Jan 18, 2010 09:57pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 652741)
Nor I. In fact, some places are seeing a surplus, and others are coming out of retirement.

Same here in OR. Last year some HS associations in my area stopped taking new officials because they had so many, and I think my association may not be this year.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:05pm

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 653003)
Same here in OR. Last year some HS associations in my area stopped taking new officials because they had so many, and I think my association may not be this year.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

SethPDX Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:06pm

Yeah, well, wasn't my idea...

Stevetheump Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:13pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 652940)
While you are clicking on things, can you turn off the BOLD or change the font?

Thank you.

Why Irish? You have bold in YOUR posts. I'm not allowed?

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:08pm

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Originally Posted by Stevetheump (Post 653010)
Why Irish? You have bold in YOUR posts. I'm not allowed?

No, I do not use bold in a post unless it is for a specific reason. You are using it as a standard font.

It is considered pretty much on the rude side in internet etiquette. It can also be more difficult for some to read. I just made a request that obviously has been also raised by others. But, being a free country, you can use whatever style you like.

Then again, so can we all.

Dutch Alex Tue Jan 19, 2010 01:32pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 652741)
Nor I. In fact, some places are seeing a surplus, and others are coming out of retirement.

Send them to Holland, or enywhere else in Europe! We're always shorthanded :mad:

IRISHMAFIA Tue Jan 19, 2010 06:15pm

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Originally Posted by Dutch Alex (Post 653385)
Send them to Holland, or enywhere else in Europe! We're always shorthanded :mad:

Even if you have umpires, it is never enough.

If an organization stops accepting umpires, the only thing that comes to my mind is greed. And in a few years, who is going to umpire those games? I find it hard to believe someone thinks people are going to hang around and stand in line waiting to be accepted by an organization.

SethPDX Tue Jan 19, 2010 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 653481)
Even if you have umpires, it is never enough.

If an organization stops accepting umpires, the only thing that comes to my mind is greed. And in a few years, who is going to umpire those games? I find it hard to believe someone thinks people are going to hang around and stand in line waiting to be accepted by an organization.

This is why I thought it was a strange move. In my association I'm one of the younger guys. The veteran umpires are not going to be around forever, so I think you might as well get as many new umpires as you can every year. You need to improve the chances of some of them sticking around.

NCASAUmp Tue Jan 19, 2010 07:23pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 653481)
Even if you have umpires, it is never enough.

If an organization stops accepting umpires, the only thing that comes to my mind is greed. And in a few years, who is going to umpire those games? I find it hard to believe someone thinks people are going to hang around and stand in line waiting to be accepted by an organization.

But at the same time, you want to respect your veteran staff by making sure they're satisfied with their assignments. If you've got 100 umpires and only have 10 fields per night, 5 nights a week with 2-umpire crews, you're only talking 1 night per week, and you can expect some very unhappy vets.

You don't want to turn away good help, but you also don't want to pi$$ off your core crew. After all, the average umpire's career is only 3 years long. Stick with the guys who have stuck it out with you for longer and continue to do excellent work.

I've been very loyal to my assignor, almost to a fault. I will only call for him, period, despite having gotten offers to call elsewhere for more money. He, in return, has been very good about making sure my calendar is full with good assignments.

Stevetheump Sun Jan 31, 2010 07:33pm

Umpires, young and old(er).............
 
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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 653495)
This is why I thought it was a strange move. In my association I'm one of the younger guys. The veteran umpires are not going to be around forever, so I think you might as well get as many new umpires as you can every year. You need to improve the chances of some of them sticking around.

Well said, Seth. Umpiring is not for everybody. To be a successful ump, you've got to have the right mindset, training and desire. I've been with my current association for 3 years now. Having been in the military, I've had to join a new association every time I went to a new duty station. I was fortunate enough to do both a Men's (FP) Class "B" State tourament ('87) and a Men's (FP) Class "B" National tournament ('88) when I was in New Mexico. But, that was when I was "younger." Now that I'm "older," I know at some point in the near future, I'll hang it up so, I'm looking for the next generation of umpires. We did have one - a 16-year old girl who played FP for many years. She was a "natural." Her first year was great and she was a "jewel" of an umpire. Unfortunately, she was killed in an auto accident last October. Our association is remembering her with a patch that has her initials on it that we'll be wearing when we take the field this year (and for years to come).
It would best serve EVERY association to recruit, recruit, recruit.

SethPDX Mon Feb 01, 2010 07:34pm

Steve, that is truly sad to hear.

To update this, we had our first meeting last week and there were several brand new officials joining. Just as well since I heard a couple longtime vets talk about this year or next year being their last.

Stevetheump Wed Feb 03, 2010 07:16pm

Sooner or later.........
 
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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 657596)
Steve, that is truly sad to hear.

To update this, we had our first meeting last week and there were several brand new officials joining. Just as well since I heard a couple longtime vets talk about this year or next year being their last.

Sooner or later, every umpire retires (or quits). You lose the desire, or you physically can't do it anymore. I know I'm on the "downside" of my umpiring career, but I'm not ready to give it up just yet. I think I still have a few years left in me.


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