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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 07:28am
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If the lead runner on 3rd gets past up by the runner on 2nd, is one of the 2 out or does physical contact between the 2 runners have to occur?
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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 07:40am
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A runner who passes a preceding runner is out. Physical contact is irrelevant.
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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 11:47am
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A runner who passes a preceding runner is out. Physical contact is irrelevant.
Unless the contact occurs AFTER the following runner passed. Then you may have an out for physically assisting a runner depending on the type of contact
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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 01:35pm
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A runner may assist another runner. A coach may not.

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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 08:25pm
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When anyone, other than another runner, physically assists the runner, the runner assisted is out.

A runner declared out is no longer a runner & therefore cannot assist.
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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 09:51pm
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Never thought of that one

That's true, Martin T.

"A runner is an offensive player who has reached first base and has not yet been put out."

However, the book (8-8-P) does use the term "runner" to refer to someone who has been put out: "When, after being declared out or after scoring, a runner intentionally interferes . . ."

Also, "a runner continuing to run and drawing a throw may be considered a form of interference."

It doesn't say "a former runner" or "an ex-runner."

Don't think it's in the case book. Wonder what the official ruling would be on the physical assist.

A fielder is someone other than another runner, too. If F6 helps a fallen runner to get up, or if F5 slaps him on the rear as F7 catches a fly, is the runner out?

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Old Thu Aug 08, 2002, 10:03pm
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If a runner falls, the trailing runner may assist him/her, as long as he/she doesn't pass the preceeding runner. This has nothing to do with interfering with a fielder.

". If F6 helps a fallen runner to get up, or if F5 slaps him on the rear as F7 catches a fly, is the runner out?"

Are you serious? Think about it.

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Old Fri Aug 09, 2002, 09:28am
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Those were rhetorical questions, bluezebra. Of course those are not outs. They are examples of how the rule book cannot be taken literally.

The question is, Can a runner who has been put out (and is by rule book definition no longer a runner) still assist another runner?

By the way, not only can a trailing runner assist. It could also be a preceding runner, as long as nobody passes anyone.

[Edited by greymule on Aug 9th, 2002 at 09:40 AM]
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