Wow!!

[txtrooper]

It is not too uncommon for law enforcement to discover large outdoor grows like this one. They are typically discovered in national forests and such large undeveloped lands. Law enforcement officers participate in a program in Texas called domestic marijuana eradication (DME) where local, state and federal officers fly over parts of the state, where they are likely to discover these types of grows. When outdoor grows are discovered, officers conduct surveillance in order to identify and arrest those involved in the cultivation of marijuana.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Personally, I am amazed at how villified one plant is, and all of the laws in place to continue that villification, and how protected another plant is by the law. The seeds of the hemp plant can produce an oil that can be used in cooking as well as a fuel oil. The stems produce a fiber that is extremely strong, and can be used as a construction material that rivals wood, and can also be used in the manufacture of textiles, ropes....etc. There may even be a pharmacological use for the drug tetrahydrocannabinol, but not much is being done in the way of research with it because its status as a schedule I drug, and the accompanying paranoia and prejudice surrounding anything to with its use.

Tobacco on the other hand....

We have hemp shops everywhere, pot laws do not affect hemp that i know of. Theres one less than a mile of here. Hemp stuff in many stores. Pot heads making the "but hemp can make rope so we need our pot" argument must be stoned.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by outathm

No matter what you may think about it, that is a LOT of plants! Someone was working hard.

You may think Pot smokers are lazy, but try growing that much of anything and see how easy it is. LOL

In sierra nevada, it is mostly a business. the pot heads grow their little gardens in their houses/backyards, many of them growing legally. The big farms are cultivated just like many others, and have nothing to do with pot smokers working. They are farmed by farm laborers.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Pot heads making the "but hemp can make rope so we need our pot" argument must be stoned.

Dude , thats Blazer logic at its finest.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

We have hemp shops everywhere, pot laws do not affect hemp that i know of. Theres one less than a mile of here. Hemp stuff in many stores. Pot heads making the "but hemp can make rope so we need our pot" argument must be stoned.

That may be true indeed, as they are everywhere. However, growing hemp in the US still remains illegal at this time, so the raw material or the finished product is having to be imported. This is why there is little being done in the development of the oils...etc. for commercial use. My question is why not make this a domestic crop? Why pay others for what can readily be grown right here?

Vermont and North Dakota, both seeing the money that can be made from the crop, have legalized its growth. However, the federal ban on hemp (not to be confused with the psychotropic marijuana), still exists and prevents hemp farms in the US from being a reality. The federal government does not distinguish between hemp and marijuana, as the plant family are one in the same. However, hemp can be grown without the psychoactive drug, THC. (The most common varieties of the plant have little to no THC in them.)

But, it is prejudices like yours and that of Chess Ref that keep the plant from being used to its potential. You see one thing, assume (we all know what happens when we "assume" something) one thing, and therefore think that it has to be the truth.

My original statement had little to do with THC (a chemical I could care less about either way), which has been clarifed even more so with this post. It has everything to do with economics, common sense, product development, industry, research...etc. for this country. When we fail to see the money we can make, someone else is darn sure going to make it. Study up. Learn a little.

Hemp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Legality Of Growing Hemp And The Lakota Sioux: Standing Silent Nation. | The Good Human

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

In sierra nevada, it is mostly a business. the pot heads grow their little gardens in their houses/backyards, many of them growing legally. The big farms are cultivated just like many others, and have nothing to do with pot smokers working. They are farmed by farm laborers.

I am curious as to how they are "grown legally." There is a federal ban on growing hemp in the US.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis.../12/27/ndhemp/

[wadeintothem]

Its grown elsewhere and the products imported to the US
Hemp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See! Now you can smoke your tshirts and ropes and your quest for hemp legalization is over!

Yippie!

Sweatshop free and made in good ole USA and Canada - Order online!
Hemp Clothing Products, Organic Cotton Linens


Yeahh you can even smoke a shower curtain.

Have fun pot heads, zero tolerance Hemp is imported and legal.. we dont have to hear that BS ever again!!!


Yeah!!!!

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I am curious as to how they are "grown legally." There is a federal ban on growing hemp in the US.

North Dakota challenges federal ban on hemp | Minnesota Public Radio NewsQ

I wasnt talking about growing hemp - i was talking about legally growing pot for use as pot.. not to make a rope.

Medical pot (another fraudy little lame scam, almost as lame as the "I wanna smoke a rope" argument) is grown legally in CA, despite (and in defiance of) federal law.

I dont know the numbers, but if you have a prescription, you can grow certain amounts. People (all with these "215 cards") get together and grow lots. They also grow it and sell it to the stores that legally supply medical pot. These cards are state issued and look very much like a drivers license, with their picture on it and everything.

Move to CA, claim a back spasm (at worst), pay your $200 and you can grow all your own rope you want.

On a side note- when we passed the medical mj thing, I voted no. It was obviously a pot head scam... as its turned out to be - a little side business for "pot doctors" who will prescribe it for money without even examining you... but

IMO, the federal gov should get the F out. CA legalized it, end of story.

Some times the feds do come and mess with the bigger operations.

Likely CA will go even farther to full legalization. Its a big tax thing for CA right now and talked about a lot.

All it does is turn people stupid IMO. When you talk to a pot head, you can tell they arent all there. They lose something and its idiotic, but probably should just be legal... its such a joke as it is. As long as you have under an ounce, in CA (and you arent charged as a vehicle code misdemeanor), it is less trouble than a speeding ticket and will stay on your record for less time.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Its grown elsewhere and the products imported to the US
Hemp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again, proof that you missed the gist of the argument.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

See! Now you can smoke your tshirts and ropes and your quest for hemp legalization is over!

Yippie!


Yeahh you can even smoke a shower curtain.

Have fun pot heads, zero tolerance Hemp is imported and legal.. we dont have to hear that BS ever again!!!

Medical pot (another fraudy little lame scam, almost as lame as the "I wanna smoke a rope" argument) is grown legally in CA, despite (and in defiance of) federal law.

It was obviously a pot head scam... as its turned out to be - a little side business for "pot doctors" who will prescribe it for money without even examining you... but...

I notice that you really seem to focus on the plant as a drug, rather than as a decent cash crop like, say, cotton, soy, trees...etc. Must be some drug issues in your past. Either that, or else you are really just failing to get the intent of my posts. I am talking agriculture and industry, you are talking drug abuse. Apples and oranges. (It is safe to mention cash crops such as apples and oranges, isn't it, without some discussion about how we are consuming too many sugars in this society?! )

My original post simply had to do with the hypocrisy of a culture who defends the growing and smoking of one plant in spite of its drug (tobacco/nicotine), while going to great lengths to villify the other(hemp/THC) even though it can be a very useful plant with the psycoactive chemical absent in its growth. I think you have helped to prove my point.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

All it does is turn people stupid IMO. When you talk to a pot head, you can tell they arent all there. They lose something and its idiotic, but probably should just be legal... its such a joke as it is.

Well...finally, something we can agree on.

[Dakota]

This has to be the most OT thread ever.



"We should have a dope-a-thon, man. You know try to raise money for like all the people that lost their crops."

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I notice that you really seem to focus on the plant as a drug, rather than as a decent cash crop like, say, cotton, soy, trees...etc. Must be some drug issues in your past. Either that, or else you are really just failing to get the intent of my posts. I am talking agriculture and industry, you are talking drug abuse. Apples and oranges. (It is safe to mention cash crops such as apples and oranges, isn't it, without some discussion about how we are consuming too many sugars in this society?! )

Hemp is already a retail and taxed product in the USA... I suppose the only thing really missing is few federally legal hemp farms??

A couple of farmers missing out? Tell em to farm grapes with their federal welfare subsidy instead.

The hemp argument is really kind of thin when not looked at through red puffy eyes.

There is no huge demand for hemp products and this is not the windfall the pot heads claim. The demand for whats out there is already there and readily available. This stuff is a novelty. Go to the mall novelty store and get all the hemp underwear you want right now, today. I googled it, there are hemp stores in Texas. Has this been a huge windfall for texas? Your legal hemp stuff?


Do you have lots of hemp stuff? Its great right? You must own much.


The real money, if one wanted to make money off of pot, is in pot. Not hemp. Hemps there, it means nothing and is a total straw man argument. There is little to no market for hemp garbage unless you want to run around with your "legalize hemp" tshirt on, made out of hemp... which ironically, was legally manufactured and purchased in the USA.

My original post simply had to do with the hypocrisy of a culture who defends the growing and smoking of one plant in spite of its drug (tobacco/nicotine), while going to great lengths to villify the other(hemp/THC) even though it can be a very useful plant with the psycoactive chemical absent in its growth. I think you have helped to prove my point.

You think tobacco and nicotine arent villified?!?

lol.

really?

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

I googled it, there are hemp stores in Texas.

Had you read my previous post, you would have noted that I said they were "everywhere." I didn't even need to Google, Cuil, Bing or otherwise search to know that. These neo-hippie stores are far from what I am talking about, but since you seemed obsessed with them and the drug, I know there is little that I can do to help you see what it is that I am talking about.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

You think tobacco and nicotine arent villified?!?

lol.

really?

Socially, of course it is. However, it is still a legally grown and protected crop, that just happens to contribute to the deaths of around 5 million people per year.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

The real money, if one wanted to make money off of pot, is in pot. Not hemp.

Actually, the real money would be as an alternative sustainable fuel source, as well as a sustainable alternative building material. But, I will cease to cast my pearls. Go ahead, enjoy the last word......

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Go ahead, enjoy the last word......

zymurgy?

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Actually, the real money would be as an alternative sustainable fuel source, as well as a sustainable alternative building material. But, I will cease to cast my pearls. Go ahead, enjoy the last word......

Its as viable a fuel source material as excess celery, rotten tomatoes, and corn schucks.

Just because you can take rocks and mortar and throw in some hemp doesnt make it a brick maker.

Its a viable brownie maker in the same regard as a viable fuel source and building material.

You "hemp will save the planet" folks need to lay off the stuff for a bit. It is not the savior.

There are models for legalization of everything.... it doesnt work out as you guys pretend it does. All one has to do is look where its legal and see if the sky has split open and everything is wonderful... the garden of Eden of legal drugs does not exist. And even hemp is not helping the countries where it is legal as a fuel source and brick... in the end, all it was..

"We legalized hemp and all we got was a few lousy tshirts".

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

But, it is prejudices like yours and that of Chess Ref that keep the plant from being used to its potential. You see one thing, assume (we all know what happens when we "assume" something) one thing, and therefore think that it has to be the truth.

I don't see how my opinion about Blazer logic is a prejudice. In my experience with the Blazer culture it seems to be the truth. Blazers do have their own logic system.

Before you I have never heard about alternative uses for pot, Other then hemp. My experience in the Blazer culture is not one of trying to light up our homes with hemp electricity but more along the lines of lighting up the end of a joint.


If you go to Blazer forums and somebody comes up with Blazer logic the other people on the board will straight out ask " Have you been smoking ? Cause what you said sounds like stoner thinking"

Stoner thinking , Blazer logic its all good.

www.potsmokers.com/underground/