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NCASAUmp Sat Aug 01, 2009 07:46am

Click vs. Rattle (ASA only)
 
When examining bats before the game (or if brought to your attention during a game), you find that a relatively new bat (from a team that honestly knows nothing of bat doctoring) is making a clicking noise anytime it's tapped against something. What are your thoughts about this?

ASA prohibits bats that make a rattle sound when shaken, but is a click any different?

What say you all?

IRISHMAFIA Sat Aug 01, 2009 08:54am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 618373)
When examining bats before the game (or if brought to your attention during a game), you find that a relatively new bat (from a team that honestly knows nothing of bat doctoring) is making a clicking noise anytime it's tapped against something. What are your thoughts about this?

ASA prohibits bats that make a rattle sound when shaken, but is a click any different?

What say you all?

Illegal, not necessarily altered. If you are hearing a noise from inside the bat, something is broken down or become lose that should not have.

NCASAUmp Sat Aug 01, 2009 09:06am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 618377)
Illegal, not necessarily altered. If you are hearing a noise from inside the bat, something is broken down or become lose that should not have.

Mike, I agree with you 110%. Unfortunately, the book only uses the words "audible rattle" when pertaining to a bat that has broken down. My concern is with this specific wording.

My opinion on this is that if there's a click coming from the bat, then something is not fastened properly. If it's a two piece bat (permanently assembled, not the interchangeable kinds), then I suspect the barrel end is not mated correctly with the grip end. If it's a one piece composite, then I suspect the end cap.

IRISHMAFIA Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:15am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 618378)
Mike, I agree with you 110%. Unfortunately, the book only uses the words "audible rattle" when pertaining to a bat that has broken down. My concern is with this specific wording.

My opinion on this is that if there's a click coming from the bat, then something is not fastened properly. If it's a two piece bat (permanently assembled, not the interchangeable kinds), then I suspect the barrel end is not mated correctly with the grip end. If it's a one piece composite, then I suspect the end cap.

And if you look up "rattle", I believe you will see that it is better defined as the presence of a noise, not a definitive type of noise.

Ref Ump Welsch Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:19am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 618391)
And if you look up "rattle", I believe you will see that it is better defined as the presence of a noise, not a definitive type of noise.

Oh, that explains the death rattle I hear every time I eject someone. :D

NCASAUmp Sat Aug 01, 2009 05:02pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 618391)
And if you look up "rattle", I believe you will see that it is better defined as the presence of a noise, not a definitive type of noise.

The definition I find is "a rapid succession of short, sharp, hard sounds." I'm not sure I'd classify a click as a rattle.

A bat, however, should not be clicking. I'd toss the bat based on the concept that not all aspects of the bat have been properly and permanently fitted.


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