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bkbjones Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:53am

Awfully hot weather
 
It was almost 80 degrees for our games on Saturday, supposed to be in the mid 70s on Sunday. Don't know how much longer we can deal with this oppressive heat!

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sun Jul 12, 2009 07:04am

Here in New York, its almost the middle of July, and it hasn't hit 90 ONCE....however, the rain has been insane - the big Sunday morning league around here literally has not played in over a MONTH, due to rainouts, the holiday, etc.....they will be playing in November the way things are going. :eek:

I wonder if ASA sells an official parka?

Skahtboi Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:22am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones (Post 614088)
It was almost 80 degrees for our games on Saturday, supposed to be in the mid 70s on Sunday. Don't know how much longer we can deal with this oppressive heat!

I would welcome those "oppressive" temperatures. Yesterday, the temp here was 103. And yes, they are playing softball. 80's would be like playing in air conditioning.

SC Ump Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:33am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones (Post 614088)
It was almost 80 degrees for our games on Saturday, supposed to be in the mid 70s on Sunday. Don't know how much longer we can deal with this oppressive heat!

Yeah, I bet it can be sweltering in Seattle when you're having your one week of blue skies. You should probably wait for the temps to go down before you clean that moss and mildew off the shingles on your house. :D

PtotheB Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:41am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones (Post 614088)
It was almost 80 degrees for our games on Saturday, supposed to be in the mid 70s on Sunday. Don't know how much longer we can deal with this oppressive heat!

80s? Does this mean that Al Gore was right about global warming? I'll just tell you something I never thought I'd have to tell someone from your area - HYDRATE or DIE!

Ref Ump Welsch Sun Jul 12, 2009 02:53pm

Gonna be pleasant tonight here in Omaha/Bluffs. Only mid-70's today, so it'll be lower 70's by game time. Beats the upper 80's and unbreathable humidity we had Friday night.

Dholloway1962 Sun Jul 12, 2009 04:43pm

To hell with all of you, that would be here in Oklahoma if you need directions!!!!!!!!!!! 103 last 3 days....miserable.

Skahtboi Sun Jul 12, 2009 07:08pm

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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962 (Post 614150)
To hell with all of you, that would be here in Oklahoma if you need directions!!!!!!!!!!! 103 last 3 days....miserable.

Whiner! :cool:

Dutch Alex Sun Jul 12, 2009 08:21pm

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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962 (Post 614150)
... 103 last 3 days....

If you have too much heat, ship some over to the Netherlands please. A carton box wil do!
We have only 16 - 18 Celcius here, with rain! Please send some sunshine...

NCASAUmp Sun Jul 12, 2009 09:10pm

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Originally Posted by Dutch Alex (Post 614177)
If you have too much heat, ship some over to the Netherlands please. A carton box wil do!
We have only 16 - 18 Celcius here, with rain! Please send some sunshine...

How about you come on over and call some games with us! I'm sure someone here will gladly let you stay with them. :)

Dutch Alex Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:08pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 614182)
How about you come on over and call some games with us! I'm sure someone here will gladly let you stay with them. :)

Oh man, I would be already on my way if only...
The compay I work for is getting all plants in Europe connected on SAP. The Neth.'s will be connected in Sept. I have 44 day's off this year BUT... I'm allowed to take two weeks off this summer! I can't work on any European Competition, like European Championship (Inter Nations) or EuroCup (Inter Clubs) held by the ESF...:mad:

Just another 3 nights working (at this moment it's 05:00 13th July in the Neth.'s) and then my vacation starts. Two weeks camping in Normandy (France). I'm really done working right now...

Maybe somewere in the years I'll come over to most softball-minded country in the world: Here we have about 5000 people playing ball (16,5 mil people living in the netherlands), it's a little sport. Most are soccer-lovers! Yuck...

Have you've seen any CanadaCup? Team USA is playing the final against Canada; the Dutch lost almost all the games. Beat only Venuzuela twice, got eliminated by Venuzuela in the 3rth match-up...
Next week they play in Oklahoma City at the World Cup of Softball...

BuggBob Mon Jul 13, 2009 02:04pm

Started to rain last night's game. Teams asked me when I was going to call the game because of the rain. "When the water running of my cap is clear." Stopped raining, field was fine, and I still need to wash my cap.

Andy Mon Jul 13, 2009 04:56pm

16u, 18u state championships here in Phoenix this last weekend....

High temp of 113 on Saturday, 114 on Sunday....and we started our last game in the day at 1:00 pm, then nothing else until 7:00 pm.

Had to take one umpire off of the field yesterday because of the heat....

DNTXUM P Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:06pm

[QUOTE=Dutch Alex;614204]Oh man, I would be already on my way if only...
The compay I work for is getting all plants in Europe connected on SAP. The Neth.'s will be connected in Sept. I have 44 day's off this year BUT... I'm allowed to take two weeks off this summer! I can't work on any European Competition, like European Championship (Inter Nations) or EuroCup (Inter Clubs) held by the ESF...:mad:

Just another 3 nights working (at this moment it's 05:00 13th July in the Neth.'s) and then my vacation starts. Two weeks camping in Normandy (France). I'm really done working right now...

Maybe somewere in the years I'll come over to most softball-minded country in the world: Here we have about 5000 people playing ball (16,5 mil people living in the netherlands), it's a little sport. Most are soccer-lovers! Yuck...

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Sander, Come on to Texas. You know you are always welcome at my house. Just bring your warm weather gear.

Larry

NCASAUmp Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:24pm

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614438)
Sander, Come on to Texas. You know you are always welcome at my house. Just bring your warm weather gear.

Larry

And by "warm weather gear," Larry's referring to this.

DNTXUM P Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:38pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 614442)
And by "warm weather gear," Larry's referring to this.

Exactly, and my ball bags make the perfect place to keep the can

NCASAUmp Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:44pm

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614448)
Exactly, and my ball bags make the perfect place to keep the can

I actually wouldn't mind getting one of them. I figure that if someone took the time to create something that makes life more comfortable for us, why shouldn't I partake?

This is actually a pretty good thread about keeping cool in the heat. Talks about Florida Water (water + spirit of ammonia), the right chest protectors and hydration.

bkbjones Tue Jul 14, 2009 02:00am

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 614403)
16u, 18u state championships here in Phoenix this last weekend....

High temp of 113 on Saturday, 114 on Sunday....and we started our last game in the day at 1:00 pm, then nothing else until 7:00 pm.

Had to take one umpire off of the field yesterday because of the heat....

Andy, Jim Weir (the coach you met in Colorado) and I were shivering on Sunday and comiserating over the heat down there and knowing how tough you had it. A little later, we decided that 100 was better than the almost 60 degrees in which we were damn near shivering.

But...we'll keep the 60s over any 113 or 114.

kcg NC2Ablu Tue Jul 14, 2009 05:32am

All I know is that in Virginia its been 85 degrees with 90% humidity for the past few tournements I have worked here. its funny because the teams from up north will be like RAIN YAY!!! and Im like you dont understand.... thats just going to make it even more steamy out here.. they continue to think I have no Idea what Im talking abou t... sure enough ... they complain about the humidity even more after an afternoon shower

outathm Tue Jul 14, 2009 09:56am

The link to the post on hot weather was a nice walk down memory lane when Wade was still confrontational. :) Advice in the post still holds true, now if only we could find some hot weather. I am looking at 75 as a high on Weather.com for my tourney this weekend. I actually am packing a jacket and may use it just to make myself drink water.:D

DNTXUM P Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:30am

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Originally Posted by outathm (Post 614527)
The link to the post on hot weather was a nice walk down memory lane when Wade was still confrontational. :) Advice in the post still holds true, now if only we could find some hot weather. I am looking at 75 as a high on Weather.com for my tourney this weekend. I actually am packing a jacket and may use it just to make myself drink water.:D

Come to San Antonio this weekend for 18 Gold qualifier. They need lots of help and are still looking for umpires. 106 with 90% humidity. They are able to pay $20 per game with no travel and no hotel rooms provided.

Dutch Alex Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:55am

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614532)
Come to San Antonio this weekend for 18 Gold qualifier. They need lots of help and are still looking for umpires. 106 with 90% humidity. They are able to pay $20 per game with no travel and no hotel rooms provided.

Larry, with all those pleasant things that are not arranged (like travel money and hotelrooms) in San Antonio, you also have to wear white pants as an umpire? ;)

HugoTafurst Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:19am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones (Post 614088)
It was almost 80 degrees for our games on Saturday, supposed to be in the mid 70s on Sunday. Don't know how much longer we can deal with this oppressive heat!

Uck Fou from Florida:rolleyes:

Was on the field from 10:00 AM till 3:00PM (BB DH - needed $$!!:o)

DNTXUM P Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by Dutch Alex (Post 614540)
Larry, with all those pleasant things that are not arranged (like travel money and hotelrooms) in San Antonio, you also have to wear white pants as an umpire? ;)

I thought that was standard. Wasn't that what I learned from you?

Tru_in_Blu Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614532)
Come to San Antonio this weekend for 18 Gold qualifier. They need lots of help and are still looking for umpires. 106 with 90% humidity. They are able to pay $20 per game with no travel and no hotel rooms provided.

Guess they'll be looking for a good long time.

outathm Tue Jul 14, 2009 01:48pm

Larry:

We have a similar program here where every year after the tourney I get complaints about the umpires that are put on the field. NO hotels rooms, $35 for out of town umpires, $33 for locals, Rain canceled games=no pay, even if the tourney minimum game requirement has been met so no team refunds, I could go on.

I tell the tournament director that three hotel rooms will place the 6 worst with 6 of the best umpires. He still will not budge, then emails me to say that he is disappointed with he umpires his assigner puts on the field. Same guy that told the assigner he did not want me to work the tourney. I am sure you can imagine the sympathy he gets from me.:cool:

DNTXUM P Tue Jul 14, 2009 01:58pm

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Originally Posted by outathm (Post 614589)
Larry:

We have a similar program here where every year after the tourney I get complaints about the umpires that are put on the field. NO hotels rooms, $35 for out of town umpires, $33 for locals, Rain canceled games=no pay, even if the tourney minimum game requirement has been met so no team refunds, I could go on.

I tell the tournament director that three hotel rooms will place the 6 worst with 6 of the best umpires. He still will not budge, then emails me to say that he is disappointed with he umpires his assigner puts on the field. Same guy that told the assigner he did not want me to work the tourney. I am sure you can imagine the sympathy he gets from me.:cool:

This was the city of San Antonio's call. They have 70 - 80 teams coming in for this qualifier. All they had to do was work with the hotels and get a few comp rooms. I was in OKC this past weekend and they put us up at the Marriott thru comp rooms and everything was great. Had a good time in spite of the heat. Our region 7 UIC will be there running things, but I cannot see driving hours each way, work in 105+ heat and lose $200 for the weekend.

ronald Tue Jul 14, 2009 02:38pm

Looks like they will have to go with the local yahoos then.

I got 20 dollars in 2002 when I left Houston. Where is the raise?

Dutch Alex Tue Jul 14, 2009 05:34pm

We'll have a standard fee of 35Euro / DH in Elite competition (20Euro / single gama) and 25 Euro / DH lower classes (15 Euro / single game) PLUS 0,18 Euro / km for traveling.
On top of that we ALWAYS have a lockerroom, some drinks (mostly something to eat) for free and (for Larry) we may work in blue pants:)

Living in the centre of the Netherlands, I never have to drive more than 2 hours. But the weather isn't always that good:(

derwil Tue Jul 14, 2009 06:16pm

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614532)
Come to San Antonio this weekend for 18 Gold qualifier. They need lots of help and are still looking for umpires. 106 with 90% humidity. They are able to pay $20 per game with no travel and no hotel rooms provided.

Gee I wonder why there having trouble finding people........

Here in Alabama it's been baking. College Exposure tourney two weekends ago - 105 degrees on the field - good thing it was only 80% humidity. Sat games from 8AM to 10PM. Did I mention that we were 4 umpires short?? I did 4 in a row to start the day with 75 min time limit. Ended up doin 18 games in two days. I was drinking 3-4 20 oz waters per game and not peeing at all.

Back on the field this weekend in similar weather. Least we're getting $25 per game!

DNTXUM P Tue Jul 14, 2009 06:59pm

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Originally Posted by ronald (Post 614602)
Looks like they will have to go with the local yahoos then.

I got 20 dollars in 2002 when I left Houston. Where is the raise?

I want to be clear. This wasn't the fault of the UIC or anyone in San Antonio other than the city and the Park and Rec Dept. Good luck to everyone there. My biggest fear for those guys there is that they may have to work 2 or 3 games in a row before getting a game break. With 106 temp and extremely high humidity, it will not be a good situation. I just no one gets heat stroke.

Steve M Tue Jul 14, 2009 07:01pm

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Originally Posted by derwil (Post 614642)
Gee I wonder why there having trouble finding people........

Here in Alabam it's been baking. College Exposure tourney two weekends ago - 105 degrees on the field - good thing it was only 80% humidity. Sat games from 8AM to 10PM. Did I mention that we were 4 umpires short?? I did 4 in a row to start the day with 75 min time limit. Endted up doin 18 games in two days. I was drinking 3-4 20 oz waters per game and not peeing at all.

Back on the field this weekend in similar weather. Least we're getting $25 per game!

Wow. 4 games in a row and 9 games in a day - obviously the folks running things do not care whether umpires are able to give their best effort.

NCASAUmp Tue Jul 14, 2009 08:43pm

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 614650)
Wow. 4 games in a row and 9 games in a day - obviously the folks running things do not care whether umpires are able to give their best effort.

Been there, done that.

Sucked!

bkbjones Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:35pm

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614532)
Come to San Antonio this weekend for 18 Gold qualifier. They need lots of help and are still looking for umpires. 106 with 90% humidity. They are able to pay $20 per game with no travel and no hotel rooms provided.

JFC! For a Gold qualifier no less. We have a 14U regional this weekend, paying $25 a game PLUS hotel for a couple out of towners. We have a great relationship with TD/JO Commissioner (a past prez of SMSUA and helluva umpire in his own right) and the rooms are often comps. At any rate, we always make room for our out of town guests, even if it's a weekend invite and they're at my house. The City of San Antone needs to get with the program...then again I have never been too enthralled with the place.

outathm Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:52am

O do the same thing around these parts. Many an umpire has slept on the couch, and in the extra 2 BRs in the house. The joys of dating, now marrying a woman with so much furniture that she buys a 4 BR house to fit it.

kcg NC2Ablu Wed Jul 15, 2009 05:25am

Im working this weekend in the 90 degree heat and 90% humidity does that count for anything? or is that not hot?

ChampaignBlue Wed Jul 15, 2009 07:04am

The other night I had to put a blanket on the bed, so cold. Checked thermometer, 78°. I guess after 5 years back in the Congo I'm ready for your Arizona weather.

I thought hot weather gear in Holland involves someone name Anneka and a bikini, am I mistaken?

Skahtboi Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:50am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones (Post 614678)
JFC! For a Gold qualifier no less. We have a 14U regional this weekend, paying $25 a game PLUS hotel for a couple out of towners. We have a great relationship with TD/JO Commissioner (a past prez of SMSUA and helluva umpire in his own right) and the rooms are often comps. At any rate, we always make room for our out of town guests, even if it's a weekend invite and they're at my house. The City of San Antone needs to get with the program...then again I have never been too enthralled with the place.

Don't take what Larry said too literally. There are rooms available for those traveling from out of the area, at other officials' houses and at the local AFB's. (There just isn't a motel/hotel budget.) The folks that run the umpire organization there are great folk, but their hands are pretty much tied by the people who are putting on this tournament as to the pay.

Skahtboi Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:51am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones (Post 614678)
JFC! The City of San Antone needs to get with the program...then again I have never been too enthralled with the place.

What's not to like about SA? Very party friendly town.

Skahtboi Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:53am

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Originally Posted by DNTXUM P (Post 614649)
I want to be clear. This wasn't the fault of the UIC or anyone in San Antonio other than the city and the Park and Rec Dept. Good luck to everyone there. My biggest fear for those guys there is that they may have to work 2 or 3 games in a row before getting a game break. With 106 temp and extremely high humidity, it will not be a good situation. I just no one gets heat stroke.

From what I understand, the plan is still to go one on and one off. Have you heard differently?

DNTXUM P Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:34am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 615003)
From what I understand, the plan is still to go one on and one off. Have you heard differently?

Only that they are still needing a bunch of folks and not getting many out of towners as of last time I heard. My reasoning is that if they don't get several umps from out of town they will be working very hard or they will use less qualified local umps. I just hope that those working keep hydrated and cool. Temps might be coming down as here it is supposed to be down to 95 this wekend.

Only had a couple of rooms on base and a few couches a local umps houses. Might have changed since the last email came out, but didn't sound like it.


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