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NCASAUmp Thu Jun 04, 2009 03:53pm
Such a shame
 
Came across this article a little bit ago. The umpire had instructed everyone to clear the field, but the kids stayed behind to play catch.

Where were the coaches? Where were the parents?

Dholloway1962 Thu Jun 04, 2009 07:23pm
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 606709)
Where were the parents?
They were standing "nearby" watching them play catch in the lightning according to the article. They should be up for child neglect charges! Horrible, just horrible.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Jun 04, 2009 08:06pm
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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962 (Post 606730)
They were standing "nearby" watching them play catch in the lightning according to the article. They should be up for child neglect charges! Horrible, just horrible.
Maybe indictments should be issued for God and/or Mother Nature for allowing such an activity like lightning occur near a child's play area. :rolleyes:

wadeintothem Thu Jun 04, 2009 08:19pm
Lord knows we could always use a new law and a new Obamagency or two to enforce it. :rolleyes:

Chess Ref Thu Jun 04, 2009 08:32pm
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 606734)
Lord knows we could always use a new law and a new Obamagency or two to enforce it. :rolleyes:
Sore Loser :)

Dholloway1962 Thu Jun 04, 2009 08:55pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 606732)
Maybe indictments should be issued for God and/or Mother Nature for allowing such an activity like lightning occur near a child's play area. :rolleyes:
Being in law enforcement for 25 years, and having worked child neglect/abuse cases for about 8 of those years, this is without a doubt criminal neglect.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Jun 04, 2009 09:06pm
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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962 (Post 606740)
Being in law enforcement for 25 years, and having worked child neglect/abuse cases for about 8 of those years, this is without a doubt criminal neglect.
Yeah, gotta have someone to blame.

CajunNewBlue Fri Jun 05, 2009 07:39am
Can we have criminal neglect for a "Force Majeure"?
I mean, even tho the umpire cleared the field. he is not a "weather expert" nor were the parents that allowed the kids to continue to play catch.
The parents lost a child... lets throw them in jail too.

NCASAUmp Fri Jun 05, 2009 07:57am
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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue (Post 606776)
Can we have criminal neglect for a "Force Majeure"?
I mean, even tho the umpire cleared the field. he is not a "weather expert" nor were the parents that allowed the kids to continue to play catch.
The parents lost a child... lets throw them in jail too.
I think in this case, prosecuting the parents would just be cruel. They've already lost a son, and no jail time in the world will bring him back or change the pain they feel.

Skahtboi Fri Jun 05, 2009 08:26am
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 606734)
Lord knows we could always use a new law and a new Obamagency or two to enforce it. :rolleyes:

You mean like all those new and useless agencies such as "The Department of Homeland Security" that have cropped up over the last decade or so??? :rolleyes:

Dakota Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:39am
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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 606790)
You mean like all those new and useless agencies such as "The Department of Homeland Security" that have cropped up over the last decade or so??? :rolleyes:
Well, since we've dived OT again, given the seizure of private property and the awarding of assets to political allies, is anyone surprised at the relaxing of relations with Cuba? Crimonitly, O has so much in common with Chávez, Mugabe, and Castro that they should form a voting bloc in the UN. After the GM nationalization and the vacating of the bankruptcy laws to favor cronies, no Dem can ever again use the phrase "rule of law" with any integrity. Without property rights, none of the other liberties matter.

NCASAUmp Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:43am
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 606817)
Well, since we've dived OT again, given the seizure of private property and the awarding of assets to political allies, is anyone surprised at the relaxing of relations with Cuba? Crimonitly, O has so much in common with Chávez, Mugabe, and Castro that they should form a voting bloc in the UN. After the GM nationalization and the vacating of the bankruptcy laws to favor cronies, no Dem can ever again use the phrase "rule of law" with any integrity. Without property rights, none of the other liberties matter.
What do you expect when this country's founding document had the original language changed from "life, liberty, and the pursuit of property" to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?"

The stage was set early.

dtwsd Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:45am
Originally Posted by Dholloway1962
They were standing "nearby" watching them play catch in the lightning according to the article. They should be up for child neglect charges! Horrible, just horrible.


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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 606732)
Maybe indictments should be issued for God and/or Mother Nature for allowing such an activity like lightning occur near a child's play area. :rolleyes:
So you want to blame God because lightning struck in a area where kids shouldn't have been in the first place?

The parents allowed these kids to play where they were at risk of being struck by lightning. God had nothing to do with that. The only reason that it struck in a "child's play area" that day is because children were playing there when lightning struck. The parents didn't take them home when they should have.

If the parents would have taken them home instead of letting them play in a lightning storm then there would be no need to be concerned about where lightning struck.

CajunNewBlue Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:56am
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Originally Posted by dtwsd (Post 606819)
Originally Posted by Dholloway1962
They were standing "nearby" watching them play catch in the lightning according to the article. They should be up for child neglect charges! Horrible, just horrible.




So you want to blame God because lightning struck in a area where kids shouldn't have been in the first place?

The parents allowed these kids to play where they were at risk of being struck by lightning. God had nothing to do with that. The only reason that it struck in a "child's play area" that day is because children were playing there when lightning struck. The parents didn't take them home when they should have.

If the parents would have taken them home instead of letting them play in a lightning storm then there would be no need to be concerned about where lightning struck.
maybe if they stayed home and never have left in the first place.... hrmmm.

Dakota Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:00am
It is a legal definition matter as to whether CRIMINAL neglect was committed, but even if this passes the legal definition, I can't imagine any prosecutor actually filing charges.

Clearly, simple neglect was involved (as well as simple foolishness).

Skahtboi Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:29am
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 606817)
Well, since we've dived OT again, given the seizure of private property and the awarding of assets to political allies, is anyone surprised at the relaxing of relations with Cuba? Crimonitly, O has so much in common with Chávez, Mugabe, and Castro that they should form a voting bloc in the UN. After the GM nationalization and the vacating of the bankruptcy laws to favor cronies, no Dem can ever again use the phrase "rule of law" with any integrity. Without property rights, none of the other liberties matter.
Are you implying that with all that has happened over the past decade, anyone can? The whim of government has been arbitrary for quite some time. They no longer answer to the citizenry, but expect the citizenry to answer to them. Americans are slowly, and happily, giving up every one of their civil liberties, and seem to be sleeping through the whole process. This is not a Rep/Dem, conservative/liberal thing any longer, and anyone who tries to keep it that way are just as at fault as the sleeping citizenry.

tcblue13 Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:53am
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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 606828)
Are you implying that with all that has happened over the past decade, anyone can? The whim of government has been arbitrary for quite some time. They no longer answer to the citizenry, but expect the citizenry to answer to them. Americans are slowly, and happily, giving up every one of their civil liberties, and seem to be sleeping through the whole process. This is not a Rep/Dem, conservative/liberal thing any longer, and anyone who tries to keep it that way are just as at fault as the sleeping citizenry.
American capitalism gone with a whimper - Pravda.Ru

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue (Post 606823)
maybe if they stayed home and never have left in the first place.... hrmmm.
Thank you. I wonder if charges against the parents would be filed if a child was struck by lightning walking from his school bus up the path to his front door.

And now, God has nothing to do with lightning?!?! Wow, an agnostic that believes in Mother Nature. Next thing you know, evolution will be the ONLY option taught in our schools, assuming anything is allowed to be taught.

Want to solve the issues with Cuba, Gitmo and North Korea all in one shot? Evacuate Gitmo, leave the prisoners and then tell North Korea they are forbidden to fire a missle at any island within 100 miles of the US mainland.

Of course, knowing Korea, they will probably hit Martha's Vinyard ;)

Ref Ump Welsch Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 606732)
Maybe indictments should be issued for God and/or Mother Nature for allowing such an activity like lightning occur near a child's play area. :rolleyes:
Just contact former State Senator Chambers from Nebraska. He tried to sue God once. Only failed because the judge asked for proof of service, and Chambers answer: God is all-knowing, He sees all, He knows all, therefore He knows He's been served. Judge didn't buy it, Chambers went on to file an appeal.

Welpe Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:46pm
This has been quite the thread...

Dave, what the heck did you start? :eek:

NCASAUmp Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 606859)
This has been quite the thread...

Dave, what the heck did you start? :eek:
Ump War 3.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jun 05, 2009 01:09pm
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 606859)
This has been quite the thread...

Dave, what the heck did you start? :eek:
You're right. Way off topic. What occurred really is a shame and shouldn't have happened, but sometimes us simple humans just cannot control everything no matter how much we care to try.

Dakota Fri Jun 05, 2009 03:45pm
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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 606828)
Are you implying that with all that has happened over the past decade, anyone can? The whim of government has been arbitrary for quite some time. They no longer answer to the citizenry, but expect the citizenry to answer to them. Americans are slowly, and happily, giving up every one of their civil liberties, and seem to be sleeping through the whole process. This is not a Rep/Dem, conservative/liberal thing any longer, and anyone who tries to keep it that way are just as at fault as the sleeping citizenry.
You are not going back nearly far enough, content as you are to lay the blame on W. It begins with FDR and the idea that it is the government's responsibility to re-distribute private property for political patronage under the guise of "justice". I haven't been a Republican for some time now. W was no conservative, but compared with O he was rock-ribbed. O is a socialist; this country has never experienced a socialist government before; we have one now. The left gets apoplectic over imagined civil rights (foreign combatants have few, if any, civil rights in this country) while cheering the wanton seizure of private property. The latter is clearly far more dangerous.

wadeintothem Fri Jun 05, 2009 03:54pm
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 606864)
Ump War 3.
Just call me switzerland (for once !) whoo hoo

(I'm just gonna hang low, you know how them obama peeps get)

:D

wadeintothem Fri Jun 05, 2009 03:55pm
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 606900)
You are not going back nearly far enough, content as you are to lay the blame on W. It begins with FDR and the idea that it is the government's responsibility to re-distribute private property for political patronage under the guise of "justice". I haven't been a Republican for some time now. W was no conservative, but compared with O he was rock-ribbed. O is a socialist; this country has never experienced a socialist government before; we have one now. The left gets apoplectic over imagined civil rights (foreign combatants have few, if any, civil rights in this country) while cheering the wanton seizure of private property. The latter is clearly far more dangerous.

FDR was a socialist.


O is a straight up Marxist.


sincerely,

switzerland

wadeintothem Fri Jun 05, 2009 03:58pm
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Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 606737)
Sore Loser :)
Hell I've never won an election in my adult lifetime.. plus I live in CA..

I'm used to it. :D

Steve M Fri Jun 05, 2009 06:33pm
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 606904)
Hell I've never won an election in my adult lifetime.. plus I live in CA..

I'm used to it. :D
Me - just a technical analyst - waiting for & watching the data.
In the past election & a couple before that, the choice wasn't who's best suited. The choice was who will do the least harm.


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