Originally Posted by vcblue (Post 604739)

The field was typical rec, no fences and tents for the snack bar area set up about 200 yards in fair territory down the third base line. We went over the ground rule and explain that if a ball roles in to that area it would be a GRD. The coaches did not protest.

Of course a ball was hit in to the tents and as the BR rounded second we killed it and awarded second.

Originally Posted by vcblue (Post 604739)

Ok so now I know there is no rule. Here was the situation. The last few year our association has placed less season umps on final games for all-star tournaments with some disastrous(yet funny) results. At the tournament I worked this weekend the director request seasoned umps. So my partner and I (both have done nationals) did the 10gold championship.

The field was typical rec, no fences and tents for the snack bar area set up about 200 yards in fair territory down the third base line. We went over the ground rule and explain that if a ball roles in to that area it would be a GRD. The coaches did not protest.

Of course a ball was hit in to the tents and as the BR rounded second we killed it and awarded second. The coach came out to me a said, "there is a rule in the book that says you can award her more bases". I said yes coach that is spectator interference, however we agreed at the beginning of the game this would be a GRD.

So to be honest with you I have no idea why he went to the book. I explained to him the only two things this could be, but oh well that's 10rec.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 604745)

Very bad call by you.

Someone hits a ball that far, give them the dang home run.

Originally Posted by argodad (Post 604744)

DAMN! A ten year old hit one 600 feet? Get that kid's name! :cool:

Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 604745)

Very bad call by you.

Someone hits a ball that far, give them the dang home run.

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 604571)

If they come out of the dugout without, shoving it in my face and trying to prove a point, they are probably going to be done for the game.

Originally Posted by vcblue (Post 604752)

200 feet not yards, and in my judgment she would have only got 3rd (slow), however I must disagree with your bad call statement (unless it was based on my 200 yard mistake). Pre-game sets the ground rules, the host league set up the tents and we had to deal with them. We stated what the call would be and no one disagreed.

I am sure the coach would have come out if we did anything but put her at second.

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000 (Post 604783)

So if they come out of the dugout and do shove it in your face not trying to prove a point, are they probably going to remain in the game?:confused:

Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 604746)

I had a Varsity HS DH a few years ago...The head coach(also the AD) had the flu and was home, the Asst coach had injured her ankle teaching PE and was at the hospital, The JV team was playing elswhere.

The principal met me and my partner in the Parking lot to tell us the sitch. She asked if they had to forfeit. I said, that she could be the coach as long as she got some school colors on.

She pulled out the rules book so many times because she was so confused. She had all kinds of questions between innings...trying to learn. What a nice lady. She could not have been nicer! She complimented us on our knowledge and hard work and on how we were helping her learn softball!

It was all we could do not to crack up! Her team swept the DH because their pitchers were amazing.

Joe In Missouri

PS I did not eject her!

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 604858)

Wow, an administrator with congeniality? Somebody fill my glass up with some more Jack and Coke! :D

Originally Posted by archangel (Post 604687)

In theory (depending on the sich as others have said) it may sound good, but in reality?? ---"Time!, ok, let me have the book, coach......no, thats not the page, ......maybe this one.......nope.......hold on coach, I'll find it.......wait, I think this is it......

Game is delayed, all are watching you thumb through the book, partner is most probably thinking "What the hell?"...

The reason I use this example is because if an umpire is unsure of a rule, he probably will have trouble finding it in the book(lack of studying?). If one is sure of the rule, no book is needed......Or clueing in the coach can wait till after the game