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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 10:59am
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Hmmm... maybe you could elaborate, 'cause this sounds like you taught the new umpire early on that a more experience umpire will toss him under the bus to the pleasure of the coaches and fans... (hopefully, not what you meant or did...)
The inexperienced partner may be under the bus but I think someone else is under the bridge.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:12pm
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The inexperienced partner may be under the bus but I think someone else is under the bridge.
Oh no, you don't mean a.....

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Old Wed Mar 25, 2009, 01:27am
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Oh no, you don't mean a.....

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Old Wed Mar 25, 2009, 07:25am
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Fan: "Hey ref, you suck!"

Ref: "No, I blow... & so do fans come to think of it )

I don't get it? sounds pretty much NOT good either way.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 01:46am
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Fan: "Hey ref, you suck!"

Ref: "No, I blow... & so do fans come to think of it )

I don't get it? sounds pretty much NOT good either way.
I blow my whistle... I don't suck it. fans blow (electric fans....)
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:35pm
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The inexperienced partner may be under the bus but I think someone else is under the bridge.
I guess neither you nor Andy read the last comment of my post. What's up with people jumping immediately onto the "I'm offended so it is your fault" bandwagon here recently?

Asking for clarification on how he "overruled" his partner in a way that generated "applause" from the fans is NOT trolling.

However, accusing someone of trolling can itself be trolling, since the definition of trolling is to post
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:39pm
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...irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community...with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
Well, crap, I guess I'm a troll, then, as I consider myself one of the resident smarta$$es. Laughter is, of course, an emotional response, and it can be disruptive.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:41pm
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Well, crap, I guess I'm a troll, then, as I consider myself one of the resident smarta$$es. Laughter is, of course, an emotional response, and it can be disruptive.
Well, me, too, and proud of it... but the posting I made here was NOT trolling, so I'm offended... and it is YOUR fault!
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 01:14pm
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Well, me, too, and proud of it... but the posting I made here was NOT trolling, so I'm offended... and it is YOUR fault!
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:46pm
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I guess neither you nor Andy read the last comment of my post. What's up with people jumping immediately onto the "I'm offended so it is your fault" bandwagon here recently?

Asking for clarification on how he "overruled" his partner in a way that generated "applause" from the fans is NOT trolling.
Tom, maybe I'm mistaken but the way I read the flow of the posts I took the trolling reference to be directed at the OP, not you.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:47pm
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Tom, maybe I'm mistaken but the way I read the flow of the posts I took the trolling reference to be directed at the OP, not you.
Maybe you're right.. but I'm still offended, only now it is YOUR fault!

(For those keeping score, my last two posts WERE trolling!)
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:51pm
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Maybe you're right.. but I'm still offended, only now it is YOUR fault!

(For those keeping score, my last two posts WERE trolling!)
Actually come to think about it you should be offended. Right now everyone in the country seems to be offended about something so you should be too. Now I've got to try and figure out what I'm offended about. Oh, I know- I'm not making enough for anyone to want to limit my bonuses or income. Darn, that is offensive.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:57pm
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Actually come to think about it you should be offended. Right now everyone in the country seems to be offended about something so you should be too. Now I've got to try and figure out what I'm offended about. Oh, I know- I'm not making enough for anyone to want to limit my bonuses or income. Darn, that is offensive.
I'll give you something offensive...
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 12:56pm
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stuck in the dualies?

As a noobie a few years ago, I was working 2-man women's SP. With a runner on 1B I was shading 2B. Batter hit a liner up the middle which F8 came in on quickly and made a throw to 2B for the force.

I couldn't get inside quick enough without impeding the progress of F4 or the runner from 1B, so I sorta just trailed her into 2B. F4 took the throw from F8 while reaching to the SS side of the base. The throw was there 3 steps before the runner, who I called out.

In between innings, my PU came out to whisper to me and asked if I needed glasses. Shocked, I asked why. "That last play, the second baseman was off the base by 3 feet." So I didn't feel too good about that. But I wondered why the runner going to second didn't complain or ask me to check with PU. I was still lamenting the bad call after the game, but my mentor just chalked it up to "that's softball - don't worry about it".

So I didn't get thrown under the bus, just mentally crawled under it myself. So now I try a little harder to anticipate such a play. It is a bit harder on some of those, especially in the SP game where the infielders often play short fielder, and I need to be behind them. Even worse for the men than women.

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Old Tue Mar 24, 2009, 01:00pm
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As a noobie a few years ago, I was working 2-man women's SP. With a runner on 1B I was shading 2B. Batter hit a liner up the middle which F8 came in on quickly and made a throw to 2B for the force.

I couldn't get inside quick enough without impeding the progress of F4 or the runner from 1B, so I sorta just trailed her into 2B. F4 took the throw from F8 while reaching to the SS side of the base. The throw was there 3 steps before the runner, who I called out.

In between innings, my PU came out to whisper to me and asked if I needed glasses. Shocked, I asked why. "That last play, the second baseman was off the base by 3 feet." So I didn't feel too good about that. But I wondered why the runner going to second didn't complain or ask me to check with PU. I was still lamenting the bad call after the game, but my mentor just chalked it up to "that's softball - don't worry about it".

So I didn't get thrown under the bus, just mentally crawled under it myself. So now I try a little harder to anticipate such a play. It is a bit harder on some of those, especially in the SP game where the infielders often play short fielder, and I need to be behind them. Even worse for the men than women.

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Without going too far down this rabbit hole, why let them push you that far into the outfield? It is acceptable to draw a line between, say, F3 and F4 and stay behind that line. Or in your case, maybe F4 and F6. If F4 is standing 20' in the outfield, you are allowed to adjust.
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Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

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