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Skahtboi Tue Mar 24, 2009 08:15am

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 590928)
Lip piercings, eye brow piercings and such are obviously dangerous and out in all rule sets.

Not NCAA.

3afan Tue Mar 24, 2009 09:05am

is a rubber band around a wrist jewelry?

IMO its not ...

Andy Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:55am

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Originally Posted by 3afan (Post 590961)
is a rubber band around a wrist jewelry?

IMO its not ...

If a player wasn't born with it attached to her body...it's jewelry.

Besides...what purpose does a rubber band around the wrist serve to a softball player?

tcblue13 Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:04am

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 590996)
If a player wasn't born with it attached to her body...it's jewelry.

Besides...what purpose does a rubber band around the wrist serve to a softball player?

If the rubber band is not a part of the hand, the hand is not a part of the bat.:rolleyes:

IRISHMAFIA Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 590945)
Not NCAA.

Nor ASA, IMJ

Dakota Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:39pm

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Originally Posted by 3afan (Post 590961)
is a rubber band around a wrist jewelry?

IMO its not ...

NFHS is pretty clear:
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ART. 12 . . . Players in the game are prohibited from wearing jewelry such as
rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces (including cloth or string types),
barrettes or other hard cosmetic or decorative items.
Cloth or string is illegal; if I saw the rubber band bracelet, Armstrong bracelet, etc., it'd have to be removed in an NFHS game. ASA, I'd ignore it.

CajunNewBlue Tue Mar 24, 2009 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 590996)
If a player wasn't born with it attached to her body...it's jewelry.

Besides...what purpose does a rubber band around the wrist serve to a softball player?

ok, then what are they suppose to wear to secure their hair? flaps of excess skin? maybe some pubes woven in rope fashion? :confused:
ok, grossed myself out.

NCASAUmp Tue Mar 24, 2009 03:36pm

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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue (Post 591084)
ok, then what are they suppose to wear to secure their hair? flaps of excess skin? maybe some pubes woven in rope fashion? :confused:
ok, grossed myself out.

Again, I'm looking for the vomiting smiley.

Until they can demonstrate that their arm hair needs to be tied back, I wouldn't allow the rubber bands, either. If it's purely for ornamentation (however stupid the ornamentation may be), it's jewelry. In this case, the ribbons actually serve a purpose of holding their hair back. Decorative, yes, but sometimes, so are the uniforms themselves.

CajunNewBlue Tue Mar 24, 2009 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 591085)
Again, I'm looking for the vomiting smiley.

Until they can demonstrate that their arm hair needs to be tied back, I wouldn't allow the rubber bands, either. If it's purely for ornamentation (however stupid the ornamentation may be), it's jewelry. In this case, the ribbons actually serve a purpose of holding their hair back. Decorative, yes, but sometimes, so are the uniforms themselves.

I agree... i just don't agree with the statement "If a player wasn't born with it attached to her body...it's jewelry."
I looked up what a barrette is.... but wtf about other types of hair "containment" type devices... those plastic half loop hair thingies? I "allowed" them in a FED game last night (i couldnt see them, d@mn field faces right into the setting sun)

NCASAUmp Tue Mar 24, 2009 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue (Post 591087)
I agree... i just don't agree with the statement "If a player wasn't born with it attached to her body...it's jewelry."
I looked up what a barrette is.... but wtf about other types of hair "containment" type devices... those plastic half loop hair thingies? I "allowed" them in a FED game last night (i couldnt see them, d@mn field faces right into the setting sun)

Well, I can't speak for what NFHS would say about this or that. There will be plenty of cases where you'll find grey areas. For me, if I'm going to make the determination between whether or not to allow certain articles of "clothing," it would boil down to a few simple things.

Does it serve an actual purpose related to the game? (ie., does it keep her hair out of her face?)

Is it purely for ornamentation?

Does it have anything that, if broken or removed, could be dangerous to herself or others (such as beads on the ribbon she's using to hold her hair back)?

Does it have anything that, even if kept in place, could be dangerous to herself or others (such as sharp edges or points)?

Is it something that, if removed, would have an adverse impact on that player's performance?

That last one is reaching, but something worth considering. If the answer is no, then your response is simple: take it off.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Mar 24, 2009 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 591088)

Does it have anything that, if broken or removed, could be dangerous to herself or others (such as beads on the ribbon she's using to hold her hair back)?

Does it have anything that, even if kept in place, could be dangerous to herself or others (such as sharp edges or points)?

Is it something that, if removed, would have an adverse impact on that player's performance?

That last one is reaching, but something worth considering. If the answer is no, then your response is simple: take it off.

With the exception of the "others", why would you care?

Dakota Tue Mar 24, 2009 07:07pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 591099)
With the exception of the "others", why would you care?

I understand that position for adults, but for minor children, I apply a standard that also includes injury to the player.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Mar 24, 2009 09:09pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 591102)
I understand that position for adults, but for minor children, I apply a standard that also includes injury to the player.

Don't buy it. If a parent wants their daughter wear a piece of jewelry that is not dangerous to anyone else, that is their decision. If the coach wants to allow his/her player wear the same, so be it.

Dakota Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:08pm

I agree in principle; just not in practice.

outathm Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:58pm

I did have a catcher earlier this season who could have used the restraint on her arm hair, but I still wouldn't allow it in a NFHS game.


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