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tcblue13 Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:14pm

3 Distinct Actions
 
We were given a new strike mechanic at the clinic this year and I was wondering if this is how it is being done all over.

NFHS
1. Vocalize call "Haaahggh!!"
2. Stand up
3. The High Hammer

This replaces Vocalizing and hammering simultaneously then standing

NCASAUmp Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:25pm

Sounds like ASA's mechanic. How high's the hammer? 90 degrees, or raising up a fist high into the air?

tcblue13 Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:52pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 585851)
Sounds like ASA's mechanic. How high's the hammer? 90 degrees, or raising up a fist high into the air?

It's higher than 90* and a little more to the front

IRISHMAFIA Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:57pm

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Originally Posted by tcblue13 (Post 585857)
It's higher than 90* and a little more to the front

Then it definitely isn't ASA

NCASAUmp Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:06pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 585860)
Then it definitely isn't ASA

D.G. in Region 4 has his own interpretation of what that "mechanic" means. :rolleyes:

MGKBLUE Fri Mar 06, 2009 01:13am

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Originally Posted by tcblue13 (Post 585847)
We were given a new strike mechanic at the clinic this year and I was wondering if this is how it is being done all over.

NFHS
1. Vocalize call "Haaahggh!!"
2. Stand up
3. The High Hammer

This replaces Vocalizing and hammering simultaneously then standing

This is the only mechanic I have been taught, have taught and used since starting to umpire, both for high school and ASA.

SRW Fri Mar 06, 2009 02:19am

"Verbal down, visual up."

We preach that up here.

Steve M Fri Mar 06, 2009 04:38am

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Originally Posted by SRW (Post 585885)
"Verbal down, visual up."

We preach that up here.


Yup, same here in Pa.

Andy Fri Mar 06, 2009 09:56am

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 585887)
Yup, same here in Pa.

Include AZ as well....

Skahtboi Fri Mar 06, 2009 09:58am

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 585935)
Include AZ as well....

...and Texas.

wadeintothem Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:32am

Cool! Welcome to softball mechanics. ;)

azbigdawg Sat Mar 07, 2009 09:02am

Only way Ive ever been taught/taught, fast or slow. I think it helps with slowing down your timing a little.

CecilOne Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcblue13 (Post 585847)
We were given a new strike mechanic at the clinic this year and I was wondering if this is how it is being done all over.

NFHS
1. Vocalize call "Haaahggh!!"
2. Stand up
3. The High Hammer

This replaces Vocalizing and hammering simultaneously then standing

Not new.
Hammering while squatting seems very awkward.
Some umps stand before the vocal, however, also wrong,

CajunNewBlue Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:44am

Well cr@p.... now that NC is getting it right.... who's plate strike mechanics am i gonna be able to make fun of now... glad to hear it tho. :D

argodad Sat Mar 07, 2009 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 585887)
Yup, same here in Pa.

...and in the Florida Panhandle. :cool:

7in60 Sat Mar 07, 2009 05:13pm

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Originally Posted by argodad (Post 586261)
...and in the Florida Panhandle. :cool:

and in Ottawa, Ontario. Except we have to be 25% higher and 25% louder.

Steve M Sat Mar 07, 2009 07:01pm

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Originally Posted by 7in60 (Post 586269)
and in Ottawa, Ontario. Except we have to be 25% higher and 25% louder.

25% higher?!? I thought that was Wade's area.:D

wadeintothem Sat Mar 07, 2009 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 586285)
25% higher?!? I thought that was Wade's area.:D

No no, thats 25% LONGER. Canada is 25% higher. Keep it straight.

whiskers_ump Sat Mar 07, 2009 08:55pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 585936)
...and Texas.


And "little Texas", Scott in big Texas

wadeintothem Sat Mar 07, 2009 08:57pm

And the Yemini Slayer of the Infidel Softball Federation.

bkbjones Sun Mar 08, 2009 03:11am

I just asked my friend in Taiwan, Woo Ching-Kao. Same there.

first2third Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:11pm

Staning up?
 
We have some umpires that verbalize then bring the feet together and then mark the strike. I was at an ASA national and was taught to not move the feet, just come out of the squat and mark it high after verbal. I have been teaching this to our association. Did I just have a weird UIC or is this the way it is supposed to be done?:cool:

azbigdawg Thu Mar 12, 2009 03:06am

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Originally Posted by first2third (Post 587516)
We have some umpires that verbalize then bring the feet together and then mark the strike. I was at an ASA national and was taught to not move the feet, just come out of the squat and mark it high after verbal. I have been teaching this to our association. Did I just have a weird UIC or is this the way it is supposed to be done?:cool:


come straight up without moving the feet....

Skahtboi Thu Mar 12, 2009 08:23am

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Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 587553)
come straight up without moving the feet....


Yup.

AtlUmpSteve Thu Mar 12, 2009 08:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by first2third (Post 587516)
We have some umpires that verbalize then bring the feet together and then mark the strike. I was at an ASA national and was taught to not move the feet, just come out of the squat and mark it high after verbal. I have been teaching this to our association. Did I just have a weird UIC or is this the way it is supposed to be done?:cool:

I used to have some, too. I asked them if they weren't forgetting to click their heels, too; also a few comments about "Schultz", and if they knew nothing.

That visual got them to change (although with younger umpires today, I doubt they would get my point).

NCASAUmp Thu Mar 12, 2009 09:03am

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 587593)
I used to have some, too. I asked them if they weren't forgetting to click their heels, too; also a few comments about "Schultz", and if they knew nothing.

That visual got them to change (although with younger umpires today, I doubt they would get my point).

Hey, I'm one of those younger umpires, and I know a good Hogan's Heroes reference when I hear one! :D

Ref Ump Welsch Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:45am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 587598)
Hey, I'm one of those younger umpires, and I know a good Hogan's Heroes reference when I hear one! :D

Congrats on your reward of bread and butter! :D

Welpe Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:27am

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 586285)
25% higher?!? I thought that was Wade's area.:D

I didn't think Wade lived in Santa Cruz. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiskers_ump (Post 586304)
And "little Texas", Scott in big Texas

Wait, there's more than one Texas? Now I'm confused. :o

Interestingly enough, the strike mechanic is the same here. I'm sensing a trend. As an aside, I am not a fan of the nearly 180* hammer mechanic. It looks like the umpire is trying to grab something out of the sky.

wadeintothem Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:41am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 587630)
I didn't think Wade lived in Santa Cruz. :D

Hell no!! I dont live with a bunch of dope smoking liberal hippies. :mad:


I live in the mountains with a bunch of meth head white trash! :cool:

SethPDX Thu Mar 12, 2009 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 587634)
Hell no!! I dont live with a bunch of dope smoking liberal hippies. :mad:


I live in the mountains with a bunch of meth head white trash! :cool:

Come on up to Oregon and live with both groups in one city! :p

wadeintothem Thu Mar 12, 2009 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 587689)
Come on up to Oregon and live with both groups in one city! :p

Doh! I thought that was Seattle!

SethPDX Thu Mar 12, 2009 03:45pm

Well, the meth labs are more on the outskirts of Portland.

And today I hear the state is thinking about getting into the medical marijuana growing business. There are critics of this plan, as you might expect. What are they saying? Why, they say growing that much pot will take a lot more work and money than the state thinks...

Only in Oregon. :D

wadeintothem Thu Mar 12, 2009 03:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 587698)
Well, the meth labs are more on the outskirts of Portland.

And today I hear the state is thinking about getting into the medical marijuana growing business. There are critics of this plan, as you might expect. What are they saying? Why, they say growing that much pot will take a lot more work and money than the state thinks...

Only in Oregon. :D

Well its only token illegal in CA. With 11361.5 hs in effect, its much worse to get a speeding ticket here than be busted with less than an oz..and with the ease of getting a fake scrip for it - they might as well completely legalize it and tax it.

And thats coming from someone who voted no on even medical marijuana (I lost - and to me medical pot is and remains an obvious hoax). But its just an idiotic joke to pretend its even illegal anymore. Ca is talking about doing just that, full legalization and taxing -- so many more zombie idiots wandering around I would imagine.


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