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SRW Sun Oct 05, 2008 06:53pm

Phillies - Brewers Interference
 
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200810043591751

Pretty good call to me...

IRISHMAFIA Sun Oct 05, 2008 07:53pm

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Originally Posted by SRW (Post 541307)

I agree. The sad part is it seemed the Brewers had to bring it to the umpires' attention to get the call.

NCASAUmp Sun Oct 05, 2008 07:54pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 541312)
I agree. The sad part is it seemed the Brewers had to bring it to the umpires' attention to get the call.

I agree. Although initially, I thought Sveum was arguing for an ejection for the runner intentionally taking out the 38-year old Counsell.

bkbjones Mon Oct 06, 2008 02:32am

Yah, but Counsell is such a BIG guy...;)

I think the big surprise was they did call it. My only question is how many times could it be called during the MLB regular season only to be ignored...

CecilOne Mon Oct 06, 2008 09:37am

My question is whether it can be called two minutes later, when not called at the time.

NCASAUmp Mon Oct 06, 2008 09:48am

Well, kudos to Sveum for knowing the rule and calmly and effectively arguing it.

SethPDX Mon Oct 06, 2008 02:23pm

From reading the thread on the baseball forum I think that U2 had the INT; the crew just forgot about the runner who scored and had to be returned to 3B.

It seems like MLB has been trying to settle down some of the action at 2B the last couple of seasons but some umpires are more strict about calling INT than others.

Dakota Mon Oct 06, 2008 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 541469)
... the crew just forgot about the runner who scored and had to be returned to 3B. ...

With only a six man crew, I can see how something like that could be overlooked! :rolleyes:

NDblue Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:02am

Sveum wasn't arguing the call. He just wanted to know how it was scored in the book because even with the INT, the DP was still turned and Sveum wanted to know how that was going to go in the book.

MNBlue Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:02am

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 541471)
With only a six man crew, I can see how something like that could be overlooked! :rolleyes:

I don't want to cut them too much slack, but they almost never call interference. And when they do, they rarely have other runners to deal with.

On the flip side, we call interference quite a bit more regularly. And we always have other runners to deal with.

Use it, lose it knowledge is easy to fall back on, but they are getting paid a little bit more than I am to know their rules. I understand, but I expect more.

NCASAUmp Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:27am

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Originally Posted by MNBlue (Post 541641)
I don't want to cut them too much slack, but they almost never call interference. And when they do, they rarely have other runners to deal with.

On the flip side, we call interference quite a bit more regularly. And we always have other runners to deal with.

Use it, lose it knowledge is easy to fall back on, but they are getting paid a little bit more than I am to know their rules. I understand, but I expect more.

Maybe too many chefs spoil the broth. How many of US have worked on a 6-man crew (for one game)?

Our duties and responsibilities, by and large, are very clearly laid out for us. MLB just seems to like to throw more umpires out there. I'm not so sure it does any good.

I'm waiting for them to put umpires at the warning track.

Dakota Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:48am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 541648)
....I'm waiting for them to put umpires at the warning track.

Nah, they've got IR for that, now. :rolleyes:

SethPDX Tue Oct 07, 2008 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 541648)
Maybe too many chefs spoil the broth. How many of US have worked on a 6-man crew (for one game)?

Our duties and responsibilities, by and large, are very clearly laid out for us. MLB just seems to like to throw more umpires out there. I'm not so sure it does any good.

I'm waiting for them to put umpires at the warning track.

I have long felt anything more than 3 umpires is just for show. And having six out there doesn't help the guys in Williamsport, either...

BTW, I have done two games with a 6-man crew. They were championship series games at a LL softball regional, and if I wasn't working 1B for one of them I probably would have gone to sleep.

Steve M Tue Oct 07, 2008 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 541648)
Maybe too many chefs spoil the broth. How many of US have worked on a 6-man crew (for one game)?

Our duties and responsibilities, by and large, are very clearly laid out for us. MLB just seems to like to throw more umpires out there. I'm not so sure it does any good.

I'm waiting for them to put umpires at the warning track.

I've done some 6-man games - it's a whole 'nother world. Most recently was earlier this year with the Olympic team. I had 2B and had few calls, but a whole lot of movement.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Oct 07, 2008 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 541648)
Maybe too many chefs spoil the broth. How many of US have worked on a 6-man crew (for one game)?

I've worked everything from one-umpire games to six-umpire crews. Yes, even a five-umpire crew where all calls in the OF were the responsibility of the blues on the line and the others worked three-umpire mechanics with no one going out.

Whether it works or not all depends on the knowledge of the crew. ASA does not support anything more than a three-umpire crew though many have used it away from OKC.

It may be boring in the FP game, but it is a lot of fun, plenty of movement and enough calls to go around on the SP side.


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