The code is not relevent. we pay our yearly dues to our association.... ASA's take vs the association take when its divied up is another matter.

Although some of you guys are getting jacked on your dues thats for sure. WAY too much.

Dunno if thats such a bad thing... some of the (female) coaches are kinda hot. :rolleyes:

And I'm sure these hot elite level college coaches who hang out on a university campus all day are very impressed with some goofy drooling umpires.... :rolleyes:

We do??? I hadn't heard this. I paid a total of $45.00. $20.00 to my local association, and $25.00 to Texas ASA.

That is a lot more reasonable. I was thinking Texas really lost their mind now.

In this area, we paid $63.00. Hell not even sure which got what. Not really
worried about it. Work two tournaments and it all comes back.

In NC, we pay $65. I'm not sure where it all goes, though. Never asked, really.

Maybe that's written in the ASA code as well. I doubt it.

thats what the guys from houston/beaumont told me this past year.

Dang.... you work cheap.... I usually make $200 a tourney :p

ASA gets $15 per umpire, to pay for rulebook, insurance, and sustain the National Office Umpire program. Whatever you pay in your area, the balance stays in your local association, to sustain your local programs.

We pay $45 in Georgia; part of the extra $30 goes into a travel fund that pays the travel costs of Georgia umpires to out-of-state National Tournaments. Part goes to compensate the State UIC staff, part goes to meet training and meeting expenses. Part goes to the state association general budget. I would presume that the costs in your states go toward similar expenses.

Houston ASA is a separate entity from Texas ASA.

Indeed it is.

It's relevant to a conversation discussing how much "ASA" charges for a book.

Some do, some don't.

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However...there are many ASA that aren't worth a $hit!!! OPINIONThat you didn't offer??

Why do you bother, Sam. I'm well aware of that and have worked with quite a few. Some from your area. But the discussion is based on the perception that because someone works NCAA, they are the best. It just isn't a fact.

BTW, of course, they are a OPINIONS which is most of what is offered on any message board, including this one.

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Like in baseball, the fact that someone has attained a certain level does not make them the best/more experience or higher than the next guy/gal. It simply means they are the best/more experienced available. Alot of "the best/more experienced available "umpires are not working on the spring weekends?

The point of this comment?

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And there is one thing that some do not realize. ASA considers the rule book part of the package teams and umpires get for their registration. Ummm...yeh!! And you think it is a bargain? So does Amway!!

As opposed to being a leech and expecting everything for nothing?

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The NCAA does not have an umpire's association and I doubt they register the coach/team as an independent entity. They are a conglomerate of educational institutions banded together for the benefit and coordination of athletic programs. Kinda like companies (IBM, General Motors, Microsoft...etc... hiring the best available person to do the job they require?

Actually, EXACTLY like the companies you mentioned. The people they hire are NOT necessarily the BEST, but as you noted, the best AVAILABLE who is willing to do the job they way the COMPANY wants it for the money the company wants to pay. In many cases that involves sucking up to certain people, being a "yes" person, and totally abandoning any level of ethics, morality or loyalty. That\'s a pretty harsh insinuation about the NCAA folks and your fellow umpires.

Then again, I didn\'t say it, you did.



And that would be the organization the umpire voluntarily joins and controls through participating in the associations meetings, votes and elections. You do that right?

Never disavowed any such concern or suggest otherwise. You did that.