Ed Hochuli

[DaveASA/FED]

I agree Ed is one of the best, but everyone makes mistakes....or IMO it wasn't a mistake when he originally made it....He did what we are all trained to do call what you saw. From his angle kind of behind the player he saw the hand coming forward and ball spit out.....looked like an incomplete pass from his angle so he called it that. Now 50 cameras and a replay later he saw what everyone else (from the side to front of the QB) saw and probably cussed himself for 45 of the 90 second review period.

I also agree, how many stupid calls did the coaching staff make, and two throws to same guy back to back....ya I'd blame Ed too! Once again the 3rd team on the field had the fewest errors of the game!!

[argodad]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

I also agree, how many stupid calls did the coaching staff make, and two throws to same guy back to back....ya I'd blame Ed too! Once again the 3rd team on the field had the fewest errors of the game!!

Yes, but I still bet Ed had trouble sleeping Sunday night. It takes a while to get over kicking a call. Especially when it happens near the end of the game and affects the outcome .

[shipwreck]

I have two questions on the whole thing. 1. On a play where a whistle is blown, there can't be a reversal. So why review it at all? 2. Since on the field it was ruled an incomplete pass, whistle blown, no reversal of call can be made. Why wasn't the ball spotted at the original line of scrimmage? It was moved back. I don't know that many variables of rules of football, but was just wondering. Dave

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

I have two questions on the whole thing. 1. On a play where a whistle is blown, there can't be a reversal. So why review it at all? 2. Since on the field it was ruled an incomplete pass, whistle blown, no reversal of call can be made. Why wasn't the ball spotted at the original line of scrimmage? It was moved back. I don't know that many variables of rules of football, but was just wondering. Dave

Don't work football, but I would think...

The review cannot determine possession in this case. It can determine whether it was an incomplete pass or fumble. An incomplete pass returns to the line of scrimmage, a fumble is the location of the ball at the time the whistle is blown.

[SethPDX]

From what I read on the football forum, the end result was that the incomplete pass ruling on the field was changed to a fumble. The whistle for an incomplete pass as called on the field then became an inadvertant whistle during a fumble, meaning possession back to the offense at the location of the ball when the whistle blew.

And football players really are the worst losers. Remember the tantrums the Ravens threw at the end of their Monday Night game against the Pats last year?

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

And football players really are the worst losers. Remember the tantrums the Ravens threw at the end of their Monday Night game against the Pats last year?

No worse than other sports. 2 examples -
What about the Cuban martial artist at the olympics?
What about some of the soccer morons in South America?

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by Steve M

No worse than other sports.
What about some of the soccer morons in South America?

Oh, there are plenty of moronic soccer players all over the world. Good point, though.