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Dholloway1962 Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:09pm

High School Ball
 
We are in the midst, about 2 weeks in, of High School (FP) ball here in the Okie State. Anyone know how many other states, if any, play HS in the Fall?

We were discussing this at a tourney today.

Skahtboi Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:22pm

Yeah....that reminds me. I had an Okie friend who was looking for a partner to work with this season and he hasn't gotten back to me.

I believe I have heard some folk from Georgia mentioning playing in the fall, though don't quote me on this.

cpa Sat Aug 23, 2008 06:03am

HS fall ball
 
In our 2nd week of HS ball -- started Aug 15 and runs thru last week in October

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sat Aug 23, 2008 08:04am

Ok.....this might be an obvious question....but why fall school ball? Too many umps needed for baseball?

Stu Clary Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:00am

They don't want to take focus away from in-season sports like the WNBA and the Canadian Football League.

shipwreck Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:03am

Here in Nebraska they play HS ball in the fall. We start August 28 and State playoffs are October 15, 16 and 17th. I sure am glad it is played in the fall here. Typically we get rain about 3 - 4 times a week in the Spring. Our Fall weather is usually quite dry with highs in the 90's but cooling off to the 50's at night. Sky high humidity in the Spring, low humidity in the Fall. In 12 years of doing HS ball, I have only been rained out 4 nights of games. That is working about 50 games a year. It is easier running track in the rainy cool weather. Same with playing soccer. Both of these sports are played in the Spring here. Dave

eyezen Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:21am

Mo
 
Missouri has their state sanctioned season in the fall.

IRISHMAFIA Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
Here in Nebraska they play HS ball in the fall. We start August 28 and State playoffs are October 15, 16 and 17th. I sure am glad it is played in the fall here. Typically we get rain about 3 - 4 times a week in the Spring. Our Fall weather is usually quite dry with highs in the 90's but cooling off to the 50's at night. Sky high humidity in the Spring, low humidity in the Fall. In 12 years of doing HS ball, I have only been rained out 4 nights of games. That is working about 50 games a year. It is easier running track in the rainy cool weather. Same with playing soccer. Both of these sports are played in the Spring here. Dave

When is the baseball season?

softball_junky Sat Aug 23, 2008 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE
Ok.....this might be an obvious question....but why fall school ball? Too many umps needed for baseball?

GHSA has considered moving softball to the spring but they say there are already too many spring sports.

Dholloway1962 Sat Aug 23, 2008 04:01pm

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Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE
Ok.....this might be an obvious question....but why fall school ball? Too many umps needed for baseball?

Don't want to compete with Baseball and the Slow Pitch HS season is in the spring.

The weather is usually better here in OK in the "fall" after you get through August when 100+ degree days are common. Thus far we have been lucky...it has been well below normal except for the first couple of days. We even had day 2 of a tournament rainout today, strange for this type of year!

Dholloway1962 Sat Aug 23, 2008 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Yeah....that reminds me. I had an Okie friend who was looking for a partner to work with this season and he hasn't gotten back to me.

Hey now! I offered you a chance at some easy $$ on some Gold ball in Durant first of June! BTW I got that tourney again for the next 2 years at least. I'll let you know when it comes around again. Supposed to be approx 20 teams, mostly Gold.

bigsig Sat Aug 23, 2008 04:18pm

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Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE
Ok.....this might be an obvious question....but why fall school ball? Too many umps needed for baseball?

I'd like to see NY State move it to the fall. Weather is alot better, usually even into mid/late November! Travel clubs playing all summer would get skills very sharp for HS season (and UMPS as well). Fall would have no conflict with Regents and Finals, Prom, etc. Girls soccer may be a major conflict though. IMHO

IRISHMAFIA Sat Aug 23, 2008 04:31pm

You know, the more I think about it, I'm starting to lean toward moving all HS ball to the fall. That way it falls along with the SP fall ball.

Of course, you may have some problem with umpires who happen to be football fans, officials or parents of players/cheerleaders/bandmembers., cheerleading, any musicians in the band, etc.

shipwreck Sat Aug 23, 2008 04:52pm

Mike, the baseball season in Nebraska is in the Spring. Since I don't do any small ball, they can have their season in the dead of Winter for all I care. Most of our HS softball games are on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturday touneys. Friday night football, so no conflict there. Only one problem I can see having HS ball in the Fall is the girls playing Summer ball need to get out of the ASA mode of pitching and get to Federation rules. Quite a few illegal pitches early in the season. Dave

Dakota Sat Aug 23, 2008 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
...Only one problem I can see having HS ball in the Fall is the girls playing Summer ball need to get out of the ASA mode of pitching and get to Federation rules. Quite a few illegal pitches early in the season. Dave

You might see illegal pitches going from Fed to ASA, but not the other way around. Anything legal in ASA is also legal in Fed.

Dukat Sat Aug 23, 2008 05:30pm

Here in Mississippi we have HS Slowpitch and Private School FP going on right now and in February they swap and we have Private School SP and Public School FP.

12yearblue Sat Aug 23, 2008 06:04pm

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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962
We are in the midst, about 2 weeks in, of High School (FP) ball here in the Okie State. Anyone know how many other states, if any, play HS in the Fall?

We were discussing this at a tourney today.

I live on the Iowa/Illinois border where Illinois has spring HS ball and Iowa with Summer HS ball. Just when Illinois is finishing Iowa starts up. So I go right from Illinois to Iowa games. Works out pretty well for now but rumored that Iowa will go to spring ball within the next couple of years.

shipwreck Sat Aug 23, 2008 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
You might see illegal pitches going from Fed to ASA, but not the other way around. Anything legal in ASA is also legal in Fed.

Tom, right you are. Now that I have my brain on straight I see how stupid my quote was. I guess I was thinking of freshmen in college pitching like they were doing Federation ball. I had that numerous times this year. Dave

IRISHMAFIA Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:09pm

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
Mike, the baseball season in Nebraska is in the Spring. Since I don't do any small ball, they can have their season in the dead of Winter for all I care. Most of our HS softball games are on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturday touneys. Friday night football, so no conflict there. Only one problem I can see having HS ball in the Fall is the girls playing Summer ball need to get out of the ASA mode of pitching and get to Federation rules. Quite a few illegal pitches early in the season. Dave

The point is if they can get in a baseball season in the spring, there is no excuse for not getting in a softball season. Also, not all HS football is played on Friday night. And in this area, the JV football games are played on Monday and, I believe an occasional Tuesday when varsity is moved to Monday due to weather.

But I've always believed the stick and ball games belong in the spring.

shipwreck Sun Aug 24, 2008 07:25am

Mike, I guess I am just being selfish. Besides the weather, the reason I like it in the Fall is because if it was in the Spring, on quite a few occasions it would conflict with my college season games. Dave

IRISHMAFIA Sun Aug 24, 2008 09:26am

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
Mike, I guess I am just being selfish. Besides the weather, the reason I like it in the Fall is because if it was in the Spring, on quite a few occasions it would conflict with my college season games. Dave

That I can understand.

JefferMC Mon Aug 25, 2008 08:57am

I've read, but have no first hand knowledge, that one of the reasons for fall softball was so that they could use the "baseball" fields while they are not occupied by the boys.

In SC (and in NC), softball is in the spring where God intended.

shipwreck Mon Aug 25, 2008 09:48am

Some say Nebraska is God's country, yet we still have softball in the Fall. Dave

NCASAUmp Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:03am

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
Some say Nebraska is God's country, yet we still have softball in the Fall. Dave

If it's god's country, explain why there's NOTHING THERE! :eek:

:D

IRISHMAFIA Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:45am

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
Some say Nebraska is God's country, yet we still have softball in the Fall. Dave

Quite a few folks in the Lancaster, PA area may disagree with that :D

IRISHMAFIA Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:46am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp
If it's god's country, explain why there's NOTHING THERE! :eek:

:D

There is nothing there because they are afraid that any distractions would draw attention away from Nebraska football program :rolleyes:

3afan Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51am

we'll start our fall ball league (N TX) in a couple of weeks ...

shipwreck Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51am

Nebraska football under Bill Callahan was terrible last year. Everyone would agree with that. Still I would take Nebraska with their football (under Bo Pelini), cornfields, flat ground and no smog over anywhere else. Nobody is holding a gun to my head forcing me to live here. I just like it here. Dave

Dakota Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:56am

Far be it from me to ridicule anyone for their choice of place to live (I actually LIKE cold winters...:rolleyes:), but I've never lived anywhere that did not refer to itself as "God's Country"... and this includes the deep south, the southwest, and 3 states in the upper midwest... Maybe some of them are shortening "God-forsaken Country"... ;)

My DD goes to college in CA, and the drive from MN to CA is long, but by far the longest part of that seems to be crossing Nebraska...

IRISHMAFIA Mon Aug 25, 2008 01:57pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota

My DD goes to college in CA, and the drive from MN to CA is long, but by far the longest part of that seems to be crossing Nebraska...

That's why God invented airplanes :p

NCASAUmp Mon Aug 25, 2008 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
There is nothing there because they are afraid that any distractions would draw attention away from Nebraska football program :rolleyes:

They have a football program?

Dakota Mon Aug 25, 2008 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
That's why God invented airplanes :p

If God had intended for people to fly, we'd all have wings... ;)

Besides, I don't think I could hitch a U-Haul to the back of an airplane... ;)

NCASAUmp Mon Aug 25, 2008 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
If God had intended for people to fly, we'd all have wings... ;)

Besides, I don't think I could hitch a U-Haul to the back of an airplane... ;)

You could, but I'm sure the FAA would have something to say about it. Not to mention the fact that the flight trim characteristics would be shot to hell...

But come on... Haven't you ever seen Con Air?

Skahtboi Mon Aug 25, 2008 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
If God had intended for people to fly, we'd all have wings... ;)

Besides, I don't think I could hitch a U-Haul to the back of an airplane... ;)


I am sure you could, but can you imagine, when they are charging $25.00 for an extra bag, and $15.00 for curb side check in, what they would charge you for a U-Haul???


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