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NCASAUmp Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:17am

I'll save wade the trouble. I dug it up in RS #44.

So you'd have R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B and the BR awarded 1B.

I don't know why I was overcomplicating things.

justcallmeblue Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:19am

<<<I know that R1 is not out - 8.8.M (contrary to the defensive teams plea's and arguements)>>>


OOPS, , , ,thats supposed to be BR

IRISHMAFIA Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:23am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp
Can't be in the 8-7s... Those are "Runner is Out." Unless there's an exception there. 8-8 is "Runner is not out."

I did a search earlier for "deflect," and it only pulled up 8-8-M and RS 26, but neither of them go into a ball that hits a runner on base that hasn't passed a fielder.

#1. THIS IS NOT A DEFLECTED BALL!!!! The ball is dead.
#2. 8.8.M is the appropriate ruling as it pertains to the status of the runner hit by the ball.
#3. 8.8.E.6 is the appropriate ruling as it pertains to the status of the player who hit the ball.
#4. RS #44.A is the appropriate reference as it pertains to all involved in the play.
#5. Stop mixing beer and orange soda and you will not have these brain farts.

justcallmeblue Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp
I'll save wade the trouble. I dug it up in RS #44.

So you'd have R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B and the BR awarded 1B.

I don't know why I was overcomplicating things.


Thanks for the answer. . . .I truly appreciate all the help!!

NCASAUmp Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:31am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
#5. Stop mixing beer and orange soda and you will not have these brain farts.

Well, it didn't mix well with grape soda, so I thought I'd try something new! :D

AtlUmpSteve Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:04am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
#5. Stop mixing beer and orange soda and you will not have these brain farts.

Not to hijack :D :eek: , but I was drinking Blue Moon beer in Aurora, and it is served with orange slices. Pretty good, in a different taste sort of way.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Jul 08, 2008 05:21pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
Not to hijack :D :eek: , but I was drinking Blue Moon beer in Aurora, and it is served with orange slices. Pretty good, in a different taste sort of way.

Anything which comes with fruit is not beer.

DeputyUICHousto Tue Jul 08, 2008 06:08pm

With the runner still in contact with the base...
 
and the defender playing behind the runner you have an immediate dead ball and the batter is awarded 1st base. Then the runner from 1st moves up to 2nd base but the runner at 3rd isn't forced.

wadeintothem Tue Jul 08, 2008 07:25pm

8-16m is the rule I was thinking of.. not 7 something.


And this is the case play

PLAY 8.9-6
With R1 on 1B, B2 hits a grounder toward F3. F3 is playing behind 1B and the ball strikes R1 standing on the bag trying to avoid the ball. When struck with the batted ball, both the ball and R1 are in fair territory.
RULING: The ball is fair and ruled dead. R1 is awarded 2B and B2 is awarded 1B. (8-1E[6]; 8-8M)

DeputyUICHousto Tue Jul 08, 2008 08:47pm

So...
 
lets throw a monkey wrench into this one.

Lets say the first baseman is in front of the base when the runner is struck with a fair batted ball then the ball goes into dead ball territory.

Now the ball is live until it goes into dead ball territory and you have a GRD when it goes out of play.

wadeintothem Tue Jul 08, 2008 09:13pm

so how is that a monkey wrench exactly?

NCASAUmp Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:07pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
so how is that a monkey wrench exactly?

Yeah, wasn't that said already?

justcallmeblue Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:55pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
so how is that a monkey wrench exactly?


Thanks , , , the play happened so quick that there is no way that I can tell any of you where he was when the ball hit R2. . . . I think he moved up and was standing parallel. . . .now THATS a monkey's wench. I mean a ***** to call

Skahtboi Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:50am

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
Not to hijack :D :eek: , but I was drinking Blue Moon beer in Aurora, and it is served with orange slices. Pretty good, in a different taste sort of way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dixNKEZpXI4

Even though this is a commercial for a crappy macro swill claiming to be beer, the sentiments expressed here still hold true even for a real beer.


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