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wadeintothem Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:13am

Hows the metal cleats in ASA?
 
So far I havent been to a single ASA tourney since HS ended where we havent run into metal cleats.. and one tournament every single player on a team had them... and they were most distressed when they got the bad news.

You guys running into them?

IMO, ASA cant hold out much longer on this...

whiskers_ump Fri Jun 06, 2008 05:06am

Having same problem around here with NAFA, AFA, ASA, and USAF.

Teams are tired of going to Wal-Mart to secure a pair of tennis shoes
or something similiar to play in.:rolleyes:

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jun 06, 2008 07:03am

All this proves is that the coaches, parents and players are too dumb to read or care what the rules of the game are.

There was absolutely no secret in the differences between the organizations as it pertains to footware.

CajunNewBlue Fri Jun 06, 2008 07:21am

for me its the "deer in the headlights" look the coaches give you when you break the bad news to them. sigh.

whiskers_ump Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue
for me its the "deer in the headlights" look the coaches give you when you break the bad news to them. sigh.


You see some this weekend if you are calling for Wayne again.

SRW Fri Jun 06, 2008 01:27pm

We have Seattle Metros this weekend. I'm fully expecting that we'll run into this issue working the 16's and 18's...

3afan Fri Jun 06, 2008 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue
... the "deer in the headlights" look the coaches give you ...

I love it :D

etn_ump Mon Jun 09, 2008 06:11am

Why aren't cleat restrictions made by age group as opposed to organization?

Seems like it would be a whole lot simpler.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jun 09, 2008 06:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by etn_ump
Why aren't cleat restrictions made by age group as opposed to organization?

Seems like it would be a whole lot simpler.

Actually, just the opposite.

SRW Mon Jun 09, 2008 09:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRW
We have Seattle Metros this weekend. I'm fully expecting that we'll run into this issue working the 16's and 18's...

Well, we ran into a few girls with metal, but when reminded that they couldn't use them, they said "no problem" and switched shoes. Wasn't a big deal.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jun 09, 2008 09:54am

Just had 16U & 14U States with no issues. Of course, that may be because I asked the JO Commissioner to send out a reminder to all coaches.

But we still have the 18U and that is the most likely place to run into this issue. Then again, the reminder may help.

MichaelVA2000 Mon Jun 09, 2008 06:46pm

I umpired a tournament this weekend in Rock Hill, SC that was using ASA rules and only had once instance where a player showed up with metel cleats. She was allowed to play when someone return with a pair of tennis shoes for her to wear.

IN ASA BLUE Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:19am

We had one team show up this past weekend all in metal cleats.
No others that I know of.

JefferMC Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000
I umpired a tournament this weekend in Rock Hill, SC that was using ASA rules and only had once instance where a player showed up with metel cleats. She was allowed to play when someone return with a pair of tennis shoes for her to wear.

Hey, was this you? :eek: (I guess not, poster says "she").

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromAFanBoard
we play strictly ASA showcase and I have been extremely impressed with the officiating, until this weekend in Rock Hill with one particular umpire. Runner on first and second with 2 outs ball hit to our ss runner brushes the ss glove as she is fielding the ball causing her to bobble the ball. No call. Asked the field judge and she said there was no contact. Asked our ss if there was contact she said yes then asked if we could get help from the plate umpire and field judge said no. I did not push it any further. Between innings asked the plate umpire (off the record what he saw) Field judge came up and wanted to know if we were talking about the play. I asked how she defined interference she responded "look it up in the rulebook".Plate umpire then answered if there is contact 99% of the time it is called. Field judge then said " contact was made after the ss had made the play on the ball.I responded "you said there was no contact!" Then field judge said I would be ejected if I "said another word"


argodad Tue Jun 10, 2008 01:34pm

If the field judge is on the bases is the back judge behind the plate? Or is that the referee? And if it's a three-ump crew do you have a head linesman and a line judge?:D


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