Hows the metal cleats in ASA?
 

So far I havent been to a single ASA tourney since HS ended where we havent run into metal cleats.. and one tournament every single player on a team had them... and they were most distressed when they got the bad news.

You guys running into them?

IMO, ASA cant hold out much longer on this...

Having same problem around here with NAFA, AFA, ASA, and USAF.

Teams are tired of going to Wal-Mart to secure a pair of tennis shoes
or something similiar to play in.:rolleyes:

All this proves is that the coaches, parents and players are too dumb to read or care what the rules of the game are.

There was absolutely no secret in the differences between the organizations as it pertains to footware.

for me its the "deer in the headlights" look the coaches give you when you break the bad news to them. sigh.

You see some this weekend if you are calling for Wayne again.

We have Seattle Metros this weekend. I'm fully expecting that we'll run into this issue working the 16's and 18's...

I love it :D

Why aren't cleat restrictions made by age group as opposed to organization?

Seems like it would be a whole lot simpler.

Actually, just the opposite.

Well, we ran into a few girls with metal, but when reminded that they couldn't use them, they said "no problem" and switched shoes. Wasn't a big deal.

Just had 16U & 14U States with no issues. Of course, that may be because I asked the JO Commissioner to send out a reminder to all coaches.

But we still have the 18U and that is the most likely place to run into this issue. Then again, the reminder may help.

I umpired a tournament this weekend in Rock Hill, SC that was using ASA rules and only had once instance where a player showed up with metel cleats. She was allowed to play when someone return with a pair of tennis shoes for her to wear.

We had one team show up this past weekend all in metal cleats.
No others that I know of.

Hey, was this you? :eek: (I guess not, poster says "she").

If the field judge is on the bases is the back judge behind the plate? Or is that the referee? And if it's a three-ump crew do you have a head linesman and a line judge?:D

For the record, the "off the record" plate umpire told the coach that we would NOT discuss that specific play, what the coach saw, the plate umpire saw, or what the base umpire allegedly told him. The coach then stated he just wanted to know (to tell his shortstop how to adjust) if contact during the fielding of a batted ball constituted interference. The response is an accurate quote, that if there is contact, 99% of the time it would be ruled interference.

I was not certain there had or had not been contact, and I had a highly qualified base umpire in proper position; she made a "no call", and handled her own conversation afterwards. If she had asked me, my response would have been that she was in much better position to judge than I was, so she had no reason to ask me for help. Beyond that, I was only willing to give a generic answer to a generic question, while refusing to discuss that play.

I knew he was fishing for something to twist, but also felt like he deserved a generic answer. So, he got one, my partner was satisfied that I had not stepped on her call, and after reminding the coach why we were all there (an exposure opportunity for his players, none of whom were being helped by the discussion), we all let it go, and moved on.

He hadn't let it go completely until he gave it a vent on that fan board. I pasted a bit of it thinking there was at least a slim chance someone here was involved and would see what was still stirring in the coaches mind.

The interesting thing about that board is the high regard most have for the "ASA umpires" while bashing High School umpires, USSSA umpires, etc. I wonder how many of those "ASA umpires" are the same as those "good-for-nothing NFHS" umpires...

This particular crew was primarily college umpires that are also ASA umpires, coming from Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia. In general conversation, most spoke of doing very few high school games in the spring, at least partially due to their college schedules.

The six Georgia umpires may be the exception; our fall high school season allows us to use most of our top umpires in NFHS, too. None of us call any other alphabet soup organizations, though.

After I wrote that last, I got to thinking that with you coming from Atlanta, it was likely a number of other "non-locals" were doing the tournament, and obviously you wouldn't be doing HS ball in NC on a regular basis.

In the 14U/16U tournaments in this area, I see some of same faces doing NSA, ISA, NFHS as well as ASA.