OU vs AU

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by orangeump

why do people say that R1 is at second base.

why not call that runner R2?

That is standard softball nomenclature; see the front of a casebook, either NFHS or ASA. Runners are R; the runner furthest advanced is R1, second most advanced is R2.

Yes, it is different in baseball; that doesn't make it more accurate, just different.

It is possible that R2 is at second; if R1 is at third!!

[orangeump]

thanks for telling me that, I often wondered why it was so weird.

It's just confusing and difficult to understand when you start a play;
with R1 at 3rd, R2 at 2nd R3 at first.

Doesnt it make more sense just to say R and the number of the base they start at?

bah, I am done. Thanks.

[JEL]

Originally Posted by orangeump

thanks for telling me that, I often wondered why it was so weird.

It's just confusing and difficult to understand when you start a play;
with R1 at 3rd, R2 at 2nd R3 at first.

Doesnt it make more sense just to say R and the number of the base they start at?

bah, I am done. Thanks.

I always translate (in my head) "R1 at 3rd, R2 at 2nd R3 at first" as bases loaded, and call them runner at 2B, and so on. I don't have to think as hard that way!

I've wondered before why the nomenclature can't be the same for both sports.

Per the OP, I watched bits and pieces of the game didn't see the plays in question, but thought the officiating was good. The strike zone seemed wide outside, and real tight inside but I wasn't set up too well in the slot! Zone was consistant.

Were either of these calls questioned by the coaching staff?

[DNTXUM P]

Other was a throw from cather (OU) to 2B where R1 (AZ) was caught sleeping getting back to 2B. Threw her out. U1 called OBS and awarded her 2B. IMO, granted I see crimson and creme, thought the runner had a clear lane back to the bag as 2B was straddling bag. Thought it shouldn't have been called

Watching the pick off at 2B, at first, I thought the 1B ump made a great call. Watching the replay, and in slow motion, it appeared that the ball beat the runner back to the bag. The fielder clearly was blocking the bag without the ball, though, and while I did not see any hesitation or deviation, the camera angles were not the best.. The 1B ump had the best look. He must have seen some sort of deviation or contact prior fielder receiving the ball. Just curious what others saw on this play.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by orangeump

thanks for telling me that, I often wondered why it was so weird.

It's just confusing and difficult to understand when you start a play;
with R1 at 3rd, R2 at 2nd R3 at first.

Doesnt it make more sense just to say R and the number of the base they start at?

bah, I am done. Thanks.

Isn't it just as weird to have #3 before #2 of #1? The softball manner of labeling players also permit a multi-play scenario without redesignation of the active runners. It also allows for a presumption of outs (if one were to go that far). For example, if you told me R1 & R3 were at the corners with one out, I would recon R2 was retired at 2B for the out and B4 was the batter. However, that is a stretch as scenarios are not usually set up in such a manner.