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IRISHMAFIA Fri Sep 23, 2011 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 789317)
In the "didn't see it, can't call it" vein...
R1 on 2B, grounder to F6, I (BU) come in to make the call at 1B.

Simultaneously, I hear an "OOF" over my right shoulder. After the play at 1B, I look over to see F5 on her keister in foul territory, R1 headed home and thrown out by 5'.

3B OC is waiting for the obvious OB call. My PU partner, watching for the pulled foot on 1B, never saw the (simultaneous) OB at 3B.

Of course, no explanation could ease his frustration or our guilt...

Your partner needs a clinic.

EsqUmp Fri Sep 30, 2011 09:21pm

Simply put, the deflected ball rule applies. Unless the runner intentionally interfered, there is no interference. The ball is live and the runner is not out.

Knowing the rationale may help. On an initially batted ball, the runners are expected to watch (or at least see) the ball. So they can be called out without intent to interfere. Compare that to the deflected ball. The runner isn't required to watch the ball everlasting. Therefore, they can't be held accountable when the ball flies off in another direction, UNLESS, they saw it happen and intentionally interfered. That's because, even though they weren't required to look for the ball, they saw it anyway and "fairness" requires them to act appropriately. In this case, acting appropriately means to avoid interfering when you know you can do so.

CecilOne Sat Oct 01, 2011 08:01am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 790944)
Simply put, the deflected ball rule applies. Unless the runner intentionally interfered, there is no interference. The ball is live and the runner is not out.

Knowing the rationale may help. On an initially batted ball, the runners are expected to watch (or at least see) the ball. So they can be called out without intent to interfere. Compare that to the deflected ball. The runner isn't required to watch the ball everlasting. Therefore, they can't be held accountable when the ball flies off in another direction, UNLESS, they saw it happen and intentionally interfered. That's because, even though they weren't required to look for the ball, they saw it anyway and "fairness" requires them to act appropriately. In this case, acting appropriately means to avoid interfering when you know you can do so.

Now that you have started posting, how about some geography and credentials in your profile or at least in an introductory post. We know who is authoritative on here, but we don't know if you are for real.

Skahtboi Sat Oct 01, 2011 04:38pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 790986)
Now that you have started posting, how about some geography and credentials in your profile or at least in an introductory post. We know who is authoritative on here, but we don't know if you are for real.

Is there an echo in here? ;)


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