Missed Home Plate
ASA SP ruleset.
Got a runner coming to the plate, got the catcher set up in front of the plate, got the ball coming also. Its gonna be close. So the runner goes for a tag on the inside corner of home plate but misses the plate. Catcher also misses the tag. Runner slides about 5 feet past home, jumps up,and immediatly goes for home. Catcher again misses the tag and runner scores. Defensive team wanted an out for missing the plate. I had nothing. I read 8-7-I and it talks about a proper live ball appeal. There was no appeal just a catcher missing the tag ,again. Was my call correct ? |
Call is correct.
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Sounds good to me.
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Yep call was good. But by attempting to tag that runner the catcher was performing a live ball appeal in a sense. Now where you could have gotten an out is if the F2 would have tagged the plate and said something about the runner missing the base prior to them returning.
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I agree that the call in the OP was correct.
With missed bases, ASA has no stipulation (as in OBR) about having to tag a runner who is "in the vicinity" of the bag or returning to touch it. An immediate appeal is permitted, and is even given as an example in a case play. My question would be, If the fielder's tagging of the base is an unmistakable appeal of an obvious miss, do I as the umpire still require that the fielder state his appeal? After all, we don't require such when a runner is halfway to 2B when F3 catches a line drive and steps on 1B. |
Unmistakable? No need to insist on a verbal. You just need to know for sure what the player is doing and why, just as in your example of a caught fly ball.
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So is this the same in fastpitch?
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Example: runner passes home-missing the plate but diving back to touch, but not before the catcher (making no attempt to tag), yells the appeal while standing on home- I dont think Id honor the appeal, and rule Safe... |
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2007 ASA Case Play 8.8-13
With no outs and R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B, R3 on 3B, B4 hits the ball back to F1 who fields the ball and throws to F2 at the plate after R1 has crossed, but missed, home plate. F2 appeals to the umpire: (a) while R1 is returning to touch home plate, or (b) after R1 has returned and touched home plate. Ruling: The run is considered to have scored unless appealed. In (a) R1 is out on appeal; in (b) the appeal is denied. (1-Appeal Play; 8-7C & I) Example: runner passes home-missing the plate but diving back to touch, but not before the catcher (making no attempt to tag), yells the appeal while standing on home- I dont think Id honor the appeal, and rule Safe... You'd be correct in OBR, which specifically excludes runners who are in the vicinity of the missed base and are attempting to return. ASA's rule is absolute and contains no exceptions. The moment the runner misses a base, the fielder can appeal. |
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OK so that is the rule in ASA, what about High School?
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