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DwBrown1970 Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:17am

Did I make the Right Call!
 
No runners on no outs batter hit a pop up halfway from home to first base firstbase is running in to catch the ball the pitcher in running to foul line to catch the ball the batter is running to firstbase you can see where this is going the batter move to the right in foul ground to miss the firstbase and the pitcher the ball move the pitch into the batter/runner in foul ground I called foulball in my eyes the runner was trying to miss eveyone and the ball was moving the pitcher into the batter/runner so did I make the right call?

And by the way the fielding team cocah with wild on my call saying that was interferes on the batter/runner.

Stu Clary Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:28am

Punctution is your friend.

wadeintothem Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:32am

You need to determine if the runner interfered with the play. If the runner interfered with a fielder who could have caught this ball with normal effort, it is interference.

I generally consider players scrambling to make a great play on a short foul fly ball as extraordinary effort. Whereas, a play lining up under the fly ball to make the catch is ordinary effort.

By your description, I'd say.. I can see it both ways, but learning towards your call being fine.

Dont think making the call the other way would have saved you from a coach talk.. it just would have been a different coach. So make your judgment and your call and thats it.

Steve M Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:34am

DW,
See what StuCarey said. He's right - try it.
I have rewritten your post, saying what I think you meant to say.

No runners on, no outs. Batter hit a pop up halfway from home to first base.
F3 is running in to catch the ball. F1 is running to foul line to catch the ball.
BR is running to firstbase. (you can see where this is going) BR moves to the right in foul ground to miss F3. F1 follows the ball into the BR in foul ground.
I called foulball because in my judgement the runner was trying to miss everyone and the ball was moving F1 into the BR. So did I make the right call?

And by the way the defense’s coach went wild on my call saying “that was interference on the BR."

The question to be answered is what fielder should have fielded this ball? That fielder is protected, no other fielder is. If F1 - the pitcher - is the player who you felt should have fielded that ball, your call should have been "dead ball, that's interference, out."

wadeintothem Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M
DW,
See what StuCarey said. He's right - try it.
I have rewritten your post, saying what I think you meant to say.

No runners on, no outs. Batter hit a pop up halfway from home to first base.
F3 is running in to catch the ball. F1 is running to foul line to catch the ball.
BR is running to firstbase. (you can see where this is going) BR moves to the right in foul ground to miss F3. F1 follows the ball into the BR in foul ground.
I called foulball because in my judgement the runner was trying to miss everyone and the ball was moving F1 into the BR. So did I make the right call?

And by the way the defense’s coach went wild on my call saying “that was interference on the BR."

The question to be answered is what fielder should have fielded this ball? That fielder is protected, no other fielder is. If F1 - the pitcher - is the player who you felt should have fielded that ball, your call should have been "dead ball, that's interference, out."

I dont believe you automatically afford protection to one or the other in this play.. I think you first determine if one could have reasonably had a play. Many times with this mess of bodies trying to do some great play, no one has a play and its just a mess...

foul ball, play on.

Steve M Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:01am

Wade,
We don't know the level of play - but the description did not sound like any extra effort was required from F1 to get to the ball.
By asking what fielder SHOULD have fielded the ball, in the small world of my mind, a fielder has a likelyhood of making a play & getting the out.

wadeintothem Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M
Wade,
We don't know the level of play - but the description did not sound like any extra effort was required from F1 to get to the ball.
By asking what fielder SHOULD have fielded the ball, in the small world of my mind, a fielder has a likelyhood of making a play & getting the out.

That is true.. but these little fly ball things with everything a mess there in that area are real tough to determine. If someone was getting there, its INT and out. If not.. its not an out.

The point is, an umpire cant really get this one wrong. Its his judgment and he would have standing with either foul ball/int... this type of play isnt in the INT/OBS category, where someone is getting dinged.. either INT or OBS.. its either INT or Foul and noone gets dinged.

greymule Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:34am

I'm truly not trying to pick on you, DwBrown70, but I'm curious about something.

When you were in school, did you turn in assignments that contained "sentences" in which more than 100 words were strung together with no punctuation whatsoever?

If so, did your teachers have anything to say about it?

Skahtboi Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Clary
Punctution is your friend.


No sh!t!!! I am still not sure what the question is.

Skahtboi Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M
DW,
See what StuCarey said. He's right - try it.
I have rewritten your post, saying what I think you meant to say.

No runners on, no outs. Batter hit a pop up halfway from home to first base.
F3 is running in to catch the ball. F1 is running to foul line to catch the ball.
BR is running to firstbase. (you can see where this is going) BR moves to the right in foul ground to miss F3. F1 follows the ball into the BR in foul ground.
I called foulball because in my judgement the runner was trying to miss everyone and the ball was moving F1 into the BR. So did I make the right call?

And by the way the defense’s coach went wild on my call saying “that was interference on the BR."

The question to be answered is what fielder should have fielded this ball? That fielder is protected, no other fielder is. If F1 - the pitcher - is the player who you felt should have fielded that ball, your call should have been "dead ball, that's interference, out."

Thanks for making that into a post that can be understood.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Clary
Punctution is your friend.

Spell check should be a friend also.

wadeintothem Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:14pm

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CecilOne Sat Mar 22, 2008 02:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Clary
Punctution is your friend.

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:confused:
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Stu Clary Sat Mar 22, 2008 03:02pm

With grammar and spelling on your mind, you'll never look like a behind.

:)

Skahtboi Sat Mar 22, 2008 04:42pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Looks more like a dead mule to me. :D


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