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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 07:03am
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... the runner staying on her feet and not avoiding the collision.
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nothing wrong with that if no malicious contact occurs (in umps judgement)
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 08:00am
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nothing wrong with that if no malicious contact occurs (in umps judgement)
besides crash interference.. there is nothing wrong with it if no malicious contact...
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 08:29am
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Looks to me that F2 had the ball, so no OBS, she can block the plate. Doesn't look like a collision. Looks like the runner avoided it.
IMHO just an out.
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 08:51am
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Looks to me that F2 had the ball, so no OBS, she can block the plate. Doesn't look like a collision. Looks like the runner avoided it.
IMHO just an out.
bigsig, Look at frame 1. What is the big yellow thing just arriving to F2?
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 09:23am
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bigsig, Look at frame 1. What is the big yellow thing just arriving to F2?
Thanks! I didn't see it. "Hey Blue, wake up you're missing a great game!".

But in all 4 photos I don't see the runner alter or react so I would not rule OBS.
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 08:55am
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I want the see the other guy's photos.

(A) "picture doesn't show if the runner altered her stride ". If she did, clearly OBS.
(B) "hard to tell if there was a tag by F2 ". If so, and not (A), out.
(C) If safe, appeal for missing plate.

(D) Ump needs cap, shirt, shorter pants, shoe polish, better position.
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 09:09am
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He does have a hat- I'll give him that. Unfortunately, it's not on his head. You can see it stuck in the harness of his mask.
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 09:33am
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I want the see the other guy's photos.

(A) "picture doesn't show if the runner altered her stride ". If she did, clearly OBS.
(B) "hard to tell if there was a tag by F2 ". If so, and not (A), out.
(C) If safe, appeal for missing plate.

(D) Ump needs cap, shirt, shorter pants, shoe polish, better position.
I'll give him a break on the shoe polish. Might be a pretty dusty field. Also I had my hat get stuck last week. First time in a long time it happened . SO he gets a minor break from me on the hat...
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 10:13am
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I agree that this is likely nothing as it would appear the the runner did not show anything that would indicate that she was hindered or impended until F2 had possession of the ball and applied the possible tag.

The only time I would be OBS would be if the runner, slowed down because F2 was blocking the plate and such change in speed cannot be determined from the photographs.
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 11:15am
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I agree that this is likely nothing as it would appear the the runner did not show anything that would indicate that she was hindered or impended until F2 had possession of the ball and applied the possible tag.

The only time I would be OBS would be if the runner, slowed down because F2 was blocking the plate and such change in speed cannot be determined from the photographs.
My thoughts, too. It is not obstruction merely because of F2's position, although the PU should be thinking and looking for it based on F2's position. We can't judge OBS based on these photos, but it likely WAS obstruction, and it was NOT likely crash interference. I base this on the runner's position in #2, where she is apparently trying to protect herself, which makes it likely she also slowed down. But, we can't know that from the pics.

What was actually called?
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 11:11am
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...Ump needs cap, shirt, shorter pants, shoe polish,...
At least he's not wearing shorts...
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 03:56pm
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At least he's not wearing shorts...
Tom,
This might be more information than I needed to know
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Old Thu Mar 20, 2008, 06:51pm
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First of all he's out of position. He needs to get on the other side of the plate.

As for a possible obstruction call, it's tough to tell with the still pictures. Just her being in the baseline without the ball doesn't make it obstruction. If the runner hesitated or changed her path any I've got obstruction. If not, I've got an out on the tag.
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2008, 07:00pm
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At least he's not wearing shorts...
Wanna bet what he would be wearing in warmer weather?
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2008, 07:21pm
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If the runner's progress was not impeded by F2 being where she was, I've just got an out. If she was, then I might award home based on snapshots in time and not seeing the full progression of the play.

Speaking ASA, I've got no INT on this one. Sure, she didn't "give herself up," but she also didn't crash with the fielder holding the ball. Looks like they bumped, but it appeared to be a minor bump. I'm not one of those umps that says, "you have to slide or give yourself up, or else I toss you." Contact happens, and as long as it doesn't appear to be a big crash (lowering a shoulder, shoving, body-checking, etc.), I'm not going to eject you.

She's already out on the tag, there appears to be no malicious contact, and looks like the catcher is ready to make a play on any other runners on base (if there are any). Ball's live, play on.
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