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Thu Feb 28, 2002, 12:03am
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Fed Ball... Batter sets up to bunt... The pitch.... PU calls a ball...Defense wants to appeal... They thought she went for the ball.
Question #1 Is there a time when you don't want to go to your partner and insist on taking the call yourself? I think I remember someone telling me that you should only go to your partner when he/she's in either the "A" or "B" position, but not in the "C". Question #2 Is a check swing handled any differently??? Question #3 Any tips on making the right calls on either of these scenarios? What do you look for? Thanks!
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Thu Feb 28, 2002, 01:42am
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As the PU I will honor all check-swing request. Heck, I'm concentrating on the strike zone and can't see everything. And I trust my BU.
As a BU only the 'A'(or'D') position will give me a good angle to veiw the travel of the bat barrel. But even in 'B' or 'C' a blatant lunge can be called. Gotta say I've yet to have a request on a bunt attemp. Kent
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Thu Feb 28, 2002, 06:06am
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Personal opinion here but backed by ASA's instructions to umpires........
PU should honor all proper requests on a check swing regardless of where partner is positioned....... If you are not sure on a check swing.......ask your partner before you are asked....... BU should have enough sense to reply with WHAT THEY SAW.....make sure you discuss this in pre-game with partner..... If BU did not see.....or is unsure.....they should give a big "Safe" call....... I seem to recall a study done by MLB on check swing calls that found that in most cases......checked swings that were appealed were actually strikes......they also viewed video from different angles and found that position of the BU had nothing to do with their ability to properly discern whether a batter checked their swing or not..... Maybe Roger or Steve have some info on this from their Baseball Mail-list. Joel
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Thu Feb 28, 2002, 11:30am
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Fed sez "may", ASA sez "should", NCAA sez "must". Doesn't much matter where my partner is, if I'm asked, I will check with my partner. Like Kent said, my first priority is the location of the ball, then it's whether the batter swung.
As for that study on checked swings, I don't have the email handy, but I do remember that the final determination was that well over 90% of all checked swings were actually swings and shoud be called strikes. Unless it is painfully obvious that the batter did not attack the ball, that's a strike - in 'A', 'B', 'C', or 'D'. About the only time I hesitate on asking my partner was when he/she was involved in a steal on that pitch - his priority is the runner and not the batter. But I will still ask. As a side not, I know thatsome PU's will tell their partner some code about what they want the BU to respond with on a checked swing. If I ask for help, I want the correct answer. If I am asked to help, you get what I got. As for tips - just decide whether the batter attacked the ball. If yes, then strike.
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Thu Feb 28, 2002, 10:12pm
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Thank you Steve.......
I should have pointed out that there is no secret to calling checked swings from the BU position...... DID the batter "Offer" at the pitch.......there is no Magical place the bat crosses or any such nonsense........ But did the batter (as you stated) "attack" the ball........ I like that better than "offered"...... Joel [Edited by Gulf Coast Blue on Feb 28th, 2002 at 10:22 PM]
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