Pesky after everything is done appeal!

[Linknblue]

Speaking ASA and HS. Based loaded. Batter hits HR out of park. Runner on 1st missed 2nd and when all is said and done....defense appeals. How many runs score?

[Dakota]

How many outs were there?

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Linknblue

Speaking ASA and HS. Based loaded. Batter hits HR out of park. Runner on 1st missed 2nd and when all is said and done....defense appeals. How many runs score?

Same scenario, 2 outs, but base coach physically assists B/R to touch the missed first base.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Linknblue

Speaking ASA and HS. Based loaded. Batter hits HR out of park. Runner on 1st missed 2nd and when all is said and done....defense appeals. How many runs score?

Speaking ASA

Assuming there were two outs at the time of the batted ball (since there is no reason to pose such a question with anything less) and assuming the appeal by the defense is R5 missing 2nd base, 2 runs score.

[Linknblue]

Sorry, 2 outs

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Speaking ASA

Assuming there were two outs at the time of the batted ball (since there is no reason to pose such a question with anything less) and assuming the appeal by the defense is R5 missing 2nd base, 2 runs score.

R5???

[NCASAUmp]

For me, this year, I've got no outs. Then again, that's a SP-only rule.

Walk 'em off, guys. Next batter.

Otherwise, yeah. What Mike said.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

R5???

Yep, went to a good school and learned how to count

[argodad]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Speaking ASA

Assuming there were two outs at the time of the batted ball (since there is no reason to pose such a question with anything less) and assuming the appeal by the defense is R5 missing 2nd base, 2 runs score.

OK, I'll buy R5 on 1B (B1 and B2 made the two outs, and R3, R4, and R5 are on base) at the time B6 hits the HR.

But R5 was forced to 2nd. If she missed it and was properly appealed, then it's the third out and no runs score. Or am I completely wrong and confused?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by argodad

OK, I'll buy R5 on 1B (B1 and B2 made the two outs, and R3, R4, and R5 are on base) at the time B6 hits the HR.

But R5 was forced to 2nd. If she missed it and was properly appealed, then it's the third out and no runs score. Or am I completely wrong and confused?

You are incorrect in runner nomenclature. Unless you went to Mike's school, that is.

Since it was a home run, there are no force outs available. BR does not score since she is a trailing runner behind the runner appealed for the third out.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Boys and girls, I'm going to back up and change my call.

Thought too quick of this being a "dead" ball. However, in FP & Masters and Senior SP, they are still required to run the bases as if the ball were live.

With a proper appeal that determined the runner did not advance to the base forced by the batter becoming a BR.

I found the play above in last year's case book under rule 5. No runs score.

[Dakota]

Oops... (for me, not Mike...)

[NDblue]

My call would be determined if I actually saw the runner miss second base. If I don't see it, I can't call it even with a proper appeal.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by Linknblue

Speaking ASA and HS. Based loaded. Batter hits HR out of park. Runner on 1st missed 2nd and when all is said and done....defense appeals. How many runs score?

No scores.

[Scooby]

No runs score.