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Old Thu Sep 20, 2007, 10:35pm
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OC asks for appeal that F3 had pulled her foot
Damn, I really need to work out how to just highlight the portion I wish to refer to, and not the whole blog, without deleting what I don't want! Or is that the only way? Anyhow:

Would you allow the OC to make an appeal on this? As PU you may trail the BR for a few steps, but with R1 on 2nd, not as far as 'No Runners' so if the BU does not ask me "Spencer, Did he/she Pull the Foot" they is no ways I am going to effectively over rule the BU from an OC appeal, unless it is a real huge 'pulled foot'

Am I wrong?
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Old Fri Sep 21, 2007, 03:51am
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Would you allow the OC to make an appeal on this? As PU you may trail the BR for a few steps, but with R1 on 2nd, not as far as 'No Runners' so if the BU does not ask me "Spencer, Did he/she Pull the Foot" they is no ways I am going to effectively over rule the BU from an OC appeal, unless it is a real huge 'pulled foot'
Spencer,
Unless BU comes to me (PU), I won't let BU have my input about a pulled foot - even if it is a really huge pulled foot.
I also do not trail the B-R more than 6-8 feet - here's why. That is my partner's call. I do not want to put my partner in the position where say the 1B coach does not like my partner's call and says something to the effect of "Well what did the plate ump see, he was in a better position than you were!"
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Old Fri Sep 21, 2007, 06:55am
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Spencer,
Unless BU comes to me (PU), I won't let BU have my input about a pulled foot - even if it is a really huge pulled foot.
I also do not trail the B-R more than 6-8 feet - here's why. That is my partner's call. I do not want to put my partner in the position where say the 1B coach does not like my partner's call and says something to the effect of "Well what did the plate ump see, he was in a better position than you were!"
If there is a runner on 2B, you shouldn't be trailing the BR at all.
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Old Fri Sep 21, 2007, 08:24am
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If there is a runner on 2B, you shouldn't be trailing the BR at all.
I agree to both the above statements, that why i queried the OC's appeal.

In ISF (and MLB-GB) we are taught to trail the BR half way to 1st with no Runners on. Only if the BU thinks they might have been a pulled foot would he call "Spence, did you see a pulled foot" I would then reply either No/Yes and he would make the call.

That's as far as I go with a pulled foot, everything else is my P's call, and stuff an appeal As i do most of the time anyhow! But's that another story that happened in Croatia at the European Womens Championship this year
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Old Fri Sep 21, 2007, 08:29am
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Damn, I really need to work out how to just highlight the portion I wish to refer to, and not the whole blog, without deleting what I don't want! Or is that the only way? Anyhow:

Would you allow the OC to make an appeal on this? As PU you may trail the BR for a few steps, but with R1 on 2nd, not as far as 'No Runners' so if the BU does not ask me "Spencer, Did he/she Pull the Foot" they is no ways I am going to effectively over rule the BU from an OC appeal, unless it is a real huge 'pulled foot'

Am I wrong?
Okay. I wrote my OP to be concise, and to get to the point of the original question. The exact chain of events in the scenario I pointed out was that the BU called out, never having seen the pulled foot. OC asked the question of BU, and BU, figuring there was a chance that he may have missed something, came to the PU for help. PU shared what he saw, i.e. the pulled foot, and then BU corrected his call.

There, is that better???
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Old Fri Sep 21, 2007, 09:15am
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Okay. I wrote my OP to be concise, and to get to the point of the original question. The exact chain of events in the scenario I pointed out was that the BU called out, never having seen the pulled foot. OC asked the question of BU, and BU, figuring there was a chance that he may have missed something, came to the PU for help. PU shared what he saw, i.e. the pulled foot, and then BU corrected his call.

There, is that better???
In this case: "I saw what the BU saw - An Out" Damn I only need 42 to get my '1st Frosty'!! joking guys I woild never call an out just to get to the Pub! But I sure as hell am not going to say I saw anything if the OC ask's me.
If my P asks me then I say what I saw, but I would hate my P to come over to me and ask if he missed anything....
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Man, I KNEW this post would get off-track within 24 hours. I just knew it.
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Old Fri Sep 21, 2007, 10:16am
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Man, I KNEW this post would get off-track within 24 hours. I just knew it.
Well...it has served its purpose now, so why not?
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