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Dakota Wed Sep 05, 2007 01:28pm

cool weather uniforms
 
A while back, there was a thread about cold weather wear for umpires, but I don't recall long-sleeved tee shirts or underarmor-type undershirt being discussed.

Assuming the color is proper (white with powder, e.g.) is it proper (ASA) to wear a long-sleeved tee shirt or other undershirt with a short-sleeved umpire shirt and no jacket?

By "proper" I mean official ASA, not would a local league or UIC allow it.

Skahtboi Wed Sep 05, 2007 01:38pm

Personally, I don't like the look of long white sleeves(or any other color for that matter) sticking out from under a short sleeved powder blue shirt(or any other color umpire shirt for that matter). I think that it looks very hokie and very unprofessional. If you wear a long sleeve shirt during cold weather, there is no reason why you cannot wear a jacket over it.

Dakota Wed Sep 05, 2007 01:44pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Personally, I don't like the look of long white sleeves(or any other color for that matter) sticking out from under a short sleeved powder blue shirt(or any other color umpire shirt for that matter). I think that it looks very hokie and very unprofessional. If you wear a long sleeve shirt during cold weather, there is no reason why you cannot wear a jacket over it.

I agree in how it looks. I was wondering what official ASA has to say about it - I can't find anything other than an undershirt needs to be white with powder, etc.

Umpire jackets are not very warm, so a layering approach makes sense on a cold day. Starts out cold in the morning, so you have a long sleeved tee shirt, your umpire shirt, and your umpire jacket on. As it warms up, you want to remove the jacket. I agree it looks tacky. But is it allowed?

AtlUmpSteve Wed Sep 05, 2007 02:11pm

No. All undergarments worn must be covered. If you wear a long sleeve undergarment, you must wear either an ASA jacket or the ASA sweater (if you have one from years ago).

tcblue13 Wed Sep 05, 2007 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
No. All undergarments worn must be covered. If you wear a long sleeve undergarment, you must wear either an ASA jacket or the ASA sweater (if you have one from years ago).

Sounds like you need velcro sleeves on that UA so they can be removed quickly.:cool:


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tcblue13 Wed Sep 05, 2007 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
No. All undergarments worn must be covered. If you wear a long sleeve undergarment, you must wear either an ASA jacket or the ASA sweater (if you have one from years ago).

Let's not forget those low pants. Your boxers have to be covered as well.
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Dakota Wed Sep 05, 2007 02:39pm

I particularly like the (ahem) chest protector! :D

Dakota Wed Sep 05, 2007 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by tcblue13
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IRISHMAFIA Wed Sep 05, 2007 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
A while back, there was a thread about cold weather wear for umpires, but I don't recall long-sleeved tee shirts or underarmor-type undershirt being discussed.

Assuming the color is proper (white with powder, e.g.) is it proper (ASA) to wear a long-sleeved tee shirt or other undershirt with a short-sleeved umpire shirt and no jacket?

By "proper" I mean official ASA, not would a local league or UIC allow it.

No. The response would be is if you are that chilly, weat a jacket, or sweater if you still have one.

Steve M Wed Sep 05, 2007 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
A while back, there was a thread about cold weather wear for umpires, but I don't recall long-sleeved tee shirts or underarmor-type undershirt being discussed.

Assuming the color is proper (white with powder, e.g.) is it proper (ASA) to wear a long-sleeved tee shirt or other undershirt with a short-sleeved umpire shirt and no jacket?

By "proper" I mean official ASA, not would a local league or UIC allow it.

College has just OK'd the long sleeve navy shirt. Perhaps ASA will come up with their version of it. I agree that a long sleeved t-shirt/undershirt under the uniform shirt looks lousy.

IRISHMAFIA Wed Sep 05, 2007 04:47pm

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Originally Posted by Steve M
I agree that a long sleeved t-shirt/undershirt under the uniform shirt looks lousy.

I have found that "umpires" that dress like this also hasn't washed their ball bag in six months and usually wears their hat backwards under the mask or is wearing a watch cap. Either way, they always have the hood up and hands in their pocket and the mask never comes off.

Dakota Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:32am

Not that I need to spend more money on umpire shirts, but it would be kind of nice to have a long sleeved shirt option.

Steve M Thu Sep 06, 2007 05:07pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
I have found that "umpires" that dress like this also hasn't washed their ball bag in six months and usually wears their hat backwards under the mask or is wearing a watch cap. Either way, they always have the hood up and hands in their pocket and the mask never comes off.

Oh boy. I know some of those folks. I cringe whenever I see they are working a game somewhere. Once upon a time, they read the part of rule 10 that essentially sez "I get to make stuff up." - and they take this to heart.

Skahtboi Fri Sep 07, 2007 08:36am

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Originally Posted by Steve M
Once upon a time, they read the part of rule 10 that essentially sez "I get to make stuff up." - and they take this to heart.

Do you really think that they read it, or were just told about it from their "mentor?" ;)

Steve M Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:45am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Do you really think that they read it, or were just told about it from their "mentor?" ;)

Well, now, in all fairness - these clowns may have thought about reading part of the book - once or twice.


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