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Ok...3/4/3....or 2/3/2??
I am talking indicators, of course.....
Some of the *ahem* more advanced umpires in our local group chide me because I am stubborn and still use the 3 strike/4 ball/ 3 Out indicators, as opposed to the '2/3/2' clickers. Maybe it is because it was I was 'brought up' on, but I STILL believe that: there are 3 strikes for a strikeout there are 4 balls in a walk and there are 3 outs in an inning, and we as officials should have all that on our 'official scoreboards' I also think it makes too easy to 'click ahead' and muck things up Personally every year I buy the Franklin 'official MLB' metal indicator - nice big numbers....and a nice big fat click with every turn. NO innings...no fancy 'day glo' numbers..no friggen clock for petes sake! Nice...basic...and it lasts all through my season. And do not get me started on the new ones with the s/b/o's in supposed 'proper' order either! god...Im gettin to be an old fart.... 
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I bought a new one. Nice brand new with bright green insides, only 2/3/2/9.
I pick it up, click it a few times.. then put it back in my bag and grab my trusty, tried and true, faded 3/4/3/9. The only thing I'll never understand about my indicator and indicators like it is why in the heck do they list strikes first.. 
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The inning? Who cares? The winning team will tell you when the game is over.
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Anyone who nit-picks over indicators has too much time on their hands (no pun intended).
I don't care if your indicator has 2 or 3 strikers, 3 or 4 balls, 2 or 3 outs, or a running tally of how many hot dogs you've eaten at the tourney. As long as it helps you, rock on.  I've got 4 indicators, and all are 3/4/3/0-9. And actually, in games where I'm the umpire AND scorekeeper, the inning wheel helps a LOT to keep track of runs.
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Dave I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views! Screw green, it ain't easy being blue! I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Mon Jul 16, 2007, 08:03am
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That doesnt have innings.
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By 'chide' I mean the normal b@// busting that goes on at meetings, in the parking lot where there are multiple fields, etc....it's not serious..just good old fashioned ump horse play...although there is one guy who is fairly serious about it...he has an ego as big as his belly anyways... 
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My dream indicator...
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Dave I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views! Screw green, it ain't easy being blue! I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Mon Jul 16, 2007, 10:24am
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 I could barely fit the text in there. Photoshop is a wonderful tool. 
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Dave I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views! Screw green, it ain't easy being blue! I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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For years, I've used the +POS 3-2-2 indicator and the Honig copy of it. This year, I switched to a 3-4-3 indicator because I wanted to try something smaller. I initially got confused using it - roll the wrong wheel, read the indicator and read a 1-2 count as 2-1. Old dog and new tricks problem that is now mostly gone away...
Besides the re-training issue, the only real gripe I have for the 3-4-3 is that the degrees of turn between numbers is noticeably smaller, especially on the balls wheel (less than a 1/4 turn between ball counts) and I have a tendancy to roll it for 2. I also find the double "click" minimum to reset the count annoying (that is say the count is 3-2 and the batter ends her at-bat however she does- you have to roll to 4 and then to 0, roll to 3 and then to 0...) Picky stuff, but if I could find a smaller 3-2-2 indicator, I'd buy it.
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Mon Jul 16, 2007, 11:05am
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Many SP leagues now start with a 1-1 count. Maybe there's money to be made in indicators with no zeroes for ball and strike. And with no strike 3/ball 4, you'd need only strikes 1 and 2 and balls 1, 2, and 3.
Another business opportunity: indicators for 1-pitch tournaments.
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greymule More whiskey—and fresh horses for my men! Roll Tide!
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Dave I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views! Screw green, it ain't easy being blue! I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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