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bkbjones Fri Jul 13, 2007 02:50am

For the HP umpire in US v. Venezuela
 
Por favor no llame más lanzamientos ilegales.

Gracias.

azbigdawg Fri Jul 13, 2007 03:19am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
Por favor no llame más lanzamientos ilegales.

Gracias.


How many did she call?

bkbjones Fri Jul 13, 2007 03:52am

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Originally Posted by azbigdawg
How many did she call?

As Keith Olbermann would say, dos cienes y seis.

I dunno for sure, but it was too damned many.

3afan Fri Jul 13, 2007 06:06am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
Por favor no llame más lanzamientos ilegales.

Gracias.

translate please

NCASAUmp Fri Jul 13, 2007 07:17am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
Por favor no llame más lanzamientos ilegales.

Gracias.

Please don't keep calling illegal pitches.

My wife is from Argentina (and no, she didn't help me with the translation). ;)

CecilOne Fri Jul 13, 2007 08:01am

1) I didn't like the over-demonstrative third strike calls.
2) A BU seemed much too close to 2nd on some CF camera shots. Was that the case or was it just camera angle. If so, is that an ISF mechanic?

Dakota Fri Jul 13, 2007 09:50am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
Por favor no llame más lanzamientos ilegales.

Gracias.

Naturally, I assumed these were against our pitchers, but no... from the writeup ...
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Jessica Mendoza (Camarillo, Calif.) started a two out rally with a double to center field. Crystl Bustos (Canyon Country, Calif.) was intentionally walked and both players advanced when Venezuela starter Mariangee Bogado was called for an illegal pitch. Tairia Flowers (Tucson, Ariz.), who was named MVP just a week ago at the Canada Cup, came through with a single up the middle that plated both runners for a 2-1 lead.

In the bottom of the second inning Lauren Lappin (Anaheim, Calif.) led off with a single, advanced to second on an error by the pitcher and then on to third on an illegal pitch. A sacrifice fly by Laura Berg (Santa Fe Springs, Calif.) scored Lappin for the third run of the game but the U.S. offense was just getting started.

Natasha Watley (Irvine, Calif.) followed with a triple to left field and scored on the third illegal pitch of the game. Vicky Galindo (Union City, Calif.) kept the offensive attack going with a bunt single but the hit of the game came from Bustos who launched a home run that one hopped the 300 foot fence at Hall of Fame Stadium.
Yikes! Were these all called by the PU? What were the violations?

Look out when Cat pitches! She'd better keep control of her leaping! (I haven't looked at the roster... is she on the team?)

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:30am

I only caught the last inning and Hollowell was nailed by PU on first pitch. US pitchers need to remember in international play there is no "touch and go" or quick touch. The requirement is two seconds and it is called.

Steve M Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:39am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
I only caught the last inning and Hollowell was nailed by PU on first pitch. US pitchers need to remember in international play there is no "touch and go" or quick touch. The requirement is two seconds and it is called.

That was the only one I saw too. You could almost hear PU talking to F2 - at least that's what I think I was hearing.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:48am

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Originally Posted by Steve M
That was the only one I saw too. You could almost hear PU talking to F2 - at least that's what I think I was hearing.

Yep, heard that, too. The umpire may be wired for sound, but that would be awfully risky keeping that mike open. Maybe it is an area mike at the backstop that was picking that up.

AtlUmpSteve Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:55am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Yep, heard that, too. The umpire may be wired for sound, but that would be awfully risky keeping that mike open. Maybe it is an area mike at the backstop that was picking that up.

Yes, Dora was wired. You could see the remote behind her back at her belt.

I didn't see the early illegal pitches, either, but it sounded from the talking heads like the early ones had all been for pause violations, too.

Skahtboi Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:14pm

Every IP that I saw that Dora called was for the two second violation. and I watched most of the game.

charliej47 Fri Jul 13, 2007 01:51pm

:D They were using a 2 second stop as a minimum for the pause before delivering. If the pitcher went more than 10 seconds it was an IP also. I did not like the mechanics for the ISF, but thats what they were told to use. I watched it for four innings and did not like the mechanics of any of the umpires.

3afan Fri Jul 13, 2007 02:27pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne
1) I didn't like the over-demonstrative third strike calls.

agree - they look silly

bkbjones Fri Jul 13, 2007 02:59pm

Every one of the IP calls were for failure to pause a minimum of two seconds after receiving the sign (or simulate receiving the sign) while on the pitcher's plate.

Dora was wired for sound. At no time did I hear any Latino swear words, and I am pretty sure I know them all (and have used them at some point in time). In fact, a smile crosses my face as I convinced my nephew to order a three-word specialty dish, the last two words of which were "tu madre." I thought this Hispanic waiter was going to caca he was laffing so hard.

Anyway...the microphone experience was much better than the IP experience.

Meanwhile, a highly placed source informs me that umpires were instructed to be "big and demonstrative" on 3K, sell safe and sell outs. Know this: because of the way the technology works, your television picture (even if you have the latest high def) is somewhat compact, and to make something look big and demonstrative on your TV it is REALLY big and demonstrative in person.


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