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outathm Mon Feb 12, 2007 04:30pm

Federation uniform ??
 
I have a lot of questions about the Fed rule book but will try to keep the postings to a minimum.

The first is the uniform rule. 3-2-1 (pg 32) says that the team 'should' wear uniforms that are the same color and style. But then, in 3-2-5 (pg33) it states that the headgear 'must' be the same color. Where is the logic in having a rainbow of shirts, which is legal, but all of the hats, visors, and headbands must match.

This inconsistancy is also true for undergarments. Upper body do not have to be the same color: 3-2-7-a; but the lower body do have to be: 3-2-7-b.

Can anyone give a logical answer for this or is it one of those HS crazy things we just have to live with?

Justme Mon Feb 12, 2007 05:03pm

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Originally Posted by outathm
I have a lot of questions about the Fed rule book but will try to keep the postings to a minimum.

The first is the uniform rule. 3-2-1 (pg 32) says that the team 'should' wear uniforms that are the same color and style. But then, in 3-2-5 (pg33) it states that the headgear 'must' be the same color. Where is the logic in having a rainbow of shirts, which is legal, but all of the hats, visors, and headbands must match.

This inconsistancy is also true for undergarments. Upper body do not have to be the same color: 3-2-7-a; but the lower body do have to be: 3-2-7-b.

Can anyone give a logical answer for this or is it one of those HS crazy things we just have to live with?

Logic and FED rules do not always walk hand in hand. Just accept the force of the FED and rule wisely.

Steve M Mon Feb 12, 2007 06:07pm

Often you'll find that JV uniforms do not exactly match varsity uniforms, but you will have some of the JV's playing varsity ball now & then. Let them, consider the uniforms to be a match. Most schools get all new hats/visors/whatever every year - there is no good reason for them not to match.

Doesn't the Fed position on slidng pants look familiar? Did you ever look at ASA's?

I'll grant you that the Fed has some goofy stuff in their rules, but this is not part of the goofy stuff.

AtlUmpSteve Mon Feb 12, 2007 07:19pm

Sliding pants must match to minimize the liklihood of the pitcher being the only player on a team wearing a distraction at the release point (from the hip). Sliders are optional, and worn for a purpose; yet often seem to be part of team purchase.

Upper body undergarments are more often worn just for an individual's comfort with temperature, and is rarely part of a team purchase. It is less reasonable to mandate not wearing a garment when cold because it doesn't match. While it is true the pitcher might wear a distracting item on her pitching arm, that can be excluded with judicious use of the rule; yet, still allow the pitcher to wear a different color undergarment, instead.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Feb 13, 2007 07:59am

Remember, as was noted this past weekend in OKC by Ms. Struckoff, the NFHS do what they can to "influence" the local associations. When it comes down to it, the locals can pretty much do whatever they please.

WestMichBlue Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:21pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Remember, as was noted this past weekend in OKC by Ms. Struckoff, the NFHS do what they can to "influence" the local associations. When it comes down to it, the locals can pretty much do whatever they please.

If you look at the full name - National Federation of State High School Associations - you realize that the NFHS is nothing more that a collection of state associations. It was started back in the 1920's by four midwest states (MI, WI, IL and IO) to combat the influence of the NCAA and club teams on high school sports. Currently all 50 states and some Canadian associations are members.

While the NFHS has an administrative staff in Indy, it's policy and rule making personnel are from the states.

WMB

Andy Wed Feb 14, 2007 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by outathm
...Can anyone give a logical answer for this or is it one of those HS crazy things we just have to live with?

Yes..........

AtlUmpSteve Wed Feb 14, 2007 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by Andy
Yes..........

Should I feel insulted???:eek: :eek:

CecilOne Wed Feb 14, 2007 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by outathm
I have a lot of questions about the Fed rule book but will try to keep the postings to a minimum. ... snip ...

Why?

What about
http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...f=13&submit=Go
?

Andy Wed Feb 14, 2007 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
Should I feel insulted???:eek: :eek:

No, Steve....nothing personal at all. If I was going to insult you, you would know it! :D

I just dislike having to be the fashion police for HS games. I'm there to umpire a softball game and frankly, I don't care if Suzy in right field has a red visor on and Debbie at second base has a blue headband, etc.

The HS association I work with can be pretty anal about this, so I enforce it by the book....I just don't like it.


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