Have you an out?

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Safe on both.

Voluntary release has nothing to do with this though - you guys are mixing your rules.

I disagree. The rule book clearly states that a catch is "gaining control" of a batted, pitched or thrown ball.

Picture this... Runner comes in sliding, fielder applies tag and has possession of the ball. Then A) as she's switching hands for a double play or B) runner pops up from slide and hits the glove (separate contact from the tag), and the ball comes out. In both A and B, you have a valid tag (and no voluntary release), and you have an out.

In this instance, they were attempting to remove the ball from the glove and I find that to be intentional - I can't penalize her for someone else knocking it out of her hand for that.