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I don't see how you can get an out in either situation. Unless it's the first inning and a team is up by 20 and you are looking for outs.
Seriously, it's not a voluntary release of the catch so you cannot have an out. Safe in both cases.
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Larry Ledbetter NFHS, NCAA, NAIA The best part about beating your head against the wall is it feels so good when you stop. |
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