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collinb Thu Jul 12, 2001 01:20pm

I have heard different opinions on the rules regarding substitution of the DP or DEFO by each other. The way I read the rules (ASA/Rule 4, Sec.3,D<E<F) If the DP substitutes for the DEFO,(or vice versa) the DEFO(or DP) leaves the game bringing the total numer of players from 10 to 9. If the DP is re-entered this would be the only time it could happen.
The reason I bring this to the forum is I heard another umpire say that the DEFO and DP can flip/flop as many times as they want.

whiskers_ump Thu Jul 12, 2001 05:13pm

collinb,

There is a gentlemen on this Forum that
can give you all the information you will ever
need on the DP/DEFO subject. His name is Steve
M. I obtained a copy through the website that
GulfCoastBlue maintains. http://www.eteamz.com/sites/GCBUmpire Not sure if Steve has web site or not, but he has a
great article.


glen

[Edited by whiskers_ump on Jul 12th, 2001 at 06:13 PM]

Gulf Coast Blue Thu Jul 12, 2001 06:16pm

collin.........

If the DP goes in for the DEFO........the DEFO is done.......BUT may re-enter once......just like a regular substitution...........

Check this out......it is a link to Steve's handout on the matter........it explains it a bit better......click on the link to the handout......if your browser won't open it......e-mail me and I can send it to you.

Joel

http://www.eteamz.com/sites/GCBUmpire/handouts

collinb Thu Jul 12, 2001 06:55pm

Thanks to all. The article written by Steve showing some case studies is a great way to show the rule interpetation.

Steve M Tue Jul 17, 2001 06:50pm

Collin,
How'd you make out with this? Everything understood now? Since it's been a few days, I thought I'd ask.

collinb Wed Jul 18, 2001 03:14am

Steve,
Your article regarding the DP & DEFO subsituting was great.
I have a feeling of confidence in my own mind on the rule.
I've printed out the material to bring with me this Friday where SUA (Suburban Umpires Assc.) will be doing a 18U Tournament in Barrington Illinois. I've also E-Mailed this forum's link on this subject to our VP in charge of training and the UIC this weekend. Thanks for all your help. This Forum is the best tool I have for Umpiring. I have always gotten answers quickly and I view the postings daily.


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