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U of M Sam Mon Apr 24, 2006 09:01pm
My simple practice when working as PU (of course some apply when I am BU):
DON'T:
Throw bat (maybe slide out of way with my foot when runner coming to plate provided I have time)
Pick up bat and hand to batter
Touch players even when they are injured (I am not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express) :>)
Throw ball back to pitcher (let catcher throw ball)
Pick up catchers helmet after it's thrown on field
These are all I think of at this point. I am very professional while umpiring and have not had a problem with practices listed.
Sam

Smiley Tue Apr 25, 2006 06:44am
Last night had runners advancing home while a bat was lying in the base path. I said to the runners, "Watch out for the bat". The catcher stepped over and picked up the bat. I thanked her.

DSUAUmpire Tue Apr 25, 2006 07:53am
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
You just don't touch the equipment. If a bat is in the way, it is the ODB's responsibility to clear it, not the umpire's. If that is an issue for the team, they shouldn't drop their bat. The rules allow for them to carry it away from the plate area.

Years back, I use to be one of those who kicked it out of the way, but how do you know the bat isn't moving to another position which could be equally as dangerous or interfere with the play. A discarded bat is part of the game, a bat moved ANYWHERE is not.
Agree with Mike and the majority of everyone here, we as an association stress to our umpires to leave equipment alone. Althought I do have to admit that as a young umpire (long time ago) I did use the classic 'kick' the bat out of way technique, picked up the bat and handed it to the next batter, or even took them to the dugouts between innings, I was a very helpful little batboy.

Dakota Tue Apr 25, 2006 09:26am
Ed,

You accused Mike of not being truthful, when the truth is you are just looking to get a reaction.

The umpires that call a batter-runner out for not dropping the bat (in ASA) are wrong. Deal with it.

By rule, the batter-runner can carry the bat all the way around the bases, just so long as she does not interfere with the defense.

You are wrong. So are your umpires (barring local rules and assuming, of course, that your report of what they call for all those different organizations is correct; given your lack of knowledge on other things and your intense desire to merely be a troll, that is a BIG assumption.)

blueskysblue Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:25am
Outstanding, Mike!

tcblue13 Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:37am
Is there a fed rule??
 
:confused:

Skahtboi Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:51am
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcblue13
Is there a fed rule??:confused:
That requires batters to drop the bat? No.

tcblue13 Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:18am
I didn't think so
Thanks

Dakota Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:57am
Oh Holy Pony...
 
Well, whaddayano...

Quote:
2006
RULES AND REGULATIONS
PONY
GIRLS
SOFTBALL

POINTS OF EMPHASIS

41. THROWING OR CARRYING A BAT
If a player throws the bat intentionally in anger, the player should be ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike conduct. If the bat slips from the batter’s hands, there is no penalty unless the discarded bat prevents the defense from making a play on the ball, and interference should be ruled.

There is no penalty when a player carries a bat to first base or any other base. Should the player use the bat (intentionally or unintentionally) to prevent a defensive playerfrom making a play, then interference should be ruled.
(Emphasis in the last paragraph is mine.)

BretMan Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:35pm
Since this issue came up once before, I do seem to recall that NSA was the lone rule set that prohibited carrying the bat to first base.

Eddie, are you Jersey guys using NSA umpires for all your ASA, PONY, Babe Ruth, whatever games?

(Edited to add: Okay..I looked it up. NSA rule 7-11-g prohibits a batter-runner from touching first base while still holding the bat. The batter is to be called "out".)

CecilOne Tue Apr 25, 2006 01:01pm
PONY, not Pony.

Dakota Tue Apr 25, 2006 01:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne
PONY, not Pony.
OK, I'll try to remember (but may need re-training, since I don't call Pon... er, PONY)... but their web site has it both ways. ;)

bkbjones Tue Apr 25, 2006 02:55pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota
OK, I'll try to remember (but may need re-training, since I don't call Pon... er, PONY)... but their web site has it both ways. ;)
:D C'mon, dammit, get it right. :D

It should be PONY because it's an acronym. In some box in the garage I have a Lew Hays Award...I think for outstanding excellence screwing Little League or something

AtlUmpSteve Tue Apr 25, 2006 07:52pm
Much as I hate to feed the troll, I seem to recall that USSSA has a similar rule calling a btter-runner out for touching 1B will holding the bat.

Still, not an ASA, NFHS, or NCAA rule.

SC Ump Tue Apr 25, 2006 08:28pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bkbjones
It should be PONY because it's an acronym....
What's it for? (Not meaning to hijack the thread.)


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