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Chess Ref Sat Apr 22, 2006 02:41pm

Pretty Sure I'm Right
 
Coach of Defensive team wants a time out. Granted. 3 Batters later, same inning asks for another time out. I grant it. My partner says at that point he needed to change pitchers cause it was the 2nd conference in the same inning. I disagreed. So we moved on.
I come home and go through the rulebook and can't find anything that limits the number of conferences per inning.

Am I missing something or is it possible my partners baseball umpiring experience is leaking through ?

debeau Sat Apr 22, 2006 03:31pm

Speaking ISF .
Three conferences per 7 innings game and can be called in same innings .
Offense 1 conference per innings

tcblue13 Sat Apr 22, 2006 03:34pm

Same in Fed
On the 4th Def Conf. the pitcher has to be changed

David Emerling Sat Apr 22, 2006 03:49pm

ASA and NFHS are the same. Three conferences per seven inning game. (A conference doesn't count if the pitcher is removed.)

However, AFA (American Fastpitch Association) has a rule nearly identical to baseball. The second conference in the same inning requires the removal of the pitcher from the pitching position ... just as your partner was saying. (OBR would require the pitcher to be removed <i>from the game</i> on the second visit - not just the pitching position.)

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

tcblue13 Sat Apr 22, 2006 03:53pm

What is OBR
 
:confused:

Smiley Sat Apr 22, 2006 04:40pm

Official Baseball Rules.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Apr 23, 2006 08:20am

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Originally Posted by tcblue13
:confused:

A set of rules which has no standing on this board

IRISHMAFIA Sun Apr 23, 2006 08:23am

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Originally Posted by David Emerling
ASA and NFHS are the same. Three conferences per seven inning game. (A conference doesn't count if the pitcher is removed.)

Not completely so. The conference wouldn't count only if the coach informs the umpire a change in the pitching position prior to any comments with any defensive player.

AtlUmpSteve Sun Apr 23, 2006 09:13am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Not completely so. The conference wouldn't count only if the coach informs the umpire a change in the pitching position prior to any comments with any defensive player.

Except in NCAA, of course. They use the one per inning rule, and not a charged conference if the coach notifies the umpire prior to crossing the foul line; BUT they also acquire an additional conference with each new in an inning (who hasn't already pitched in that inning).

I'm waiting for the coach who figures out that s/he can have her conference in front of the team dugout in foul territory, and then still not get charged a conference if there is a pitching change.

You haven't lived until you had a 3 hour NCAA D1 game, low scoring, completed in regulation; but the coaches just won't let the players play, they have to justify their coaching salaries. I have seen a coach who will have a conference every half inning; and I mean EVERY half inning. One inning, his pitcher retired two batters with two pitches, and he called a defensive conference. One more case of doing it with coach logic, rather than rules logic.

SC Ump Sun Apr 23, 2006 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
... and I mean EVERY half inning.

I don't do NCAA. Can you say, "Coach, of course you can have time. ... two ...three ...four ... All right, let's play!" :)

Steve M Sun Apr 23, 2006 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by SC Ump
I don't do NCAA. Can you say, "Coach, of course you can have time. ... two ...three ...four ... All right, let's play!" :)

No, Dan. You can't hurry a college coach along.


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