Boo

[rwest]

ouch, that hurts!

[Dakota]

The rule you are talking about is ASA 7-2-C-4. Here is what ASA was trying to say (quoting the NFHS book, which says it better)

When several players bat out of order before discovery so that a player's time at bat occurs while she is a runner, such player remains on base, but she is NOT out as a batter.

[Dakota]

And, PS... MNBlue, pollywolly, and Scott all gave you the proper ruling for your situation.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dakota

And, PS... MNBlue, pollywolly, and Scott all gave you the proper ruling for your situation.

ASA 7:2;D:2:Effect states:

a)the player who should have batted is out.
b) any advance of runners and any runs scored shall be nullified. All outs made stand.
c) the next batter is the players whose name follows that of the player called out for failing to bat.

b) pretty much covers it here. Any advance of runners shall be nullified. Therefore, the BR shall be removed from the bases and returned to the dugout.

[mcrowder]

rwest, you are confusing two rules. You have been told the correct remedy to BOO.

The rule you are using only refers to instances where the proper batter (after calling the skipped batter out, removing the improper batter from the bases, and moving all runners back to their original bases) is on base (the result of multiple BOO's). That player is simply skipped in the batting order without penalty. Example...

Proper lineup is Able, Baker, Charlie, Dave, Evan.

Charlie comes to bat and singles. Defense says nothing.
Able then comes to bat and singles (Charlie to 2B). Defense says nothing.
Dave then comes to bat and singles. Defense protests that Baker was the proper batter. Baker is called out. Dave is sent to the dugout. Charlie is put back on 2nd, Able on 1st. Now... the proper batter after Baker is Charlie, but Charlie is on base. Charlie is simply skipped, not removed from the bases, and not an out... Dave now bats again.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

rwest, you are confusing two rules. You have been told the correct remedy to BOO.

The rule you are using only refers to instances where the proper batter (after calling the skipped batter out, removing the improper batter from the bases, and moving all runners back to their original bases) is on base (the result of multiple BOO's). That player is simply skipped in the batting order without penalty. Example...

Proper lineup is Able, Baker, Charlie, Dave, Evan.

Charlie comes to bat and singles. Defense says nothing.
Able then comes to bat and singles (Charlie to 2B). Defense says nothing.
Dave then comes to bat and singles. Defense protests that Baker was the proper batter. Baker is called out. Dave is sent to the dugout. Charlie is put back on 2nd, Able on 1st. Now... the proper batter after Baker is Charlie, but Charlie is on base. Charlie is simply skipped, not removed from the bases, and not an out... Dave now bats again.

Your explanation makes more sense then the ASA rulebook. Its a little confusing to me. When it says "No runner shall be removed from the base occupied except the batter runner who has been taken off the base by the umpire as in (2) above to bat in the proper place", I was interpreting that to mean that the batter-runner should only be removed to bat if he was the proper batter (i.e. the one after the batter called out failing to bat).

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by rwest

Your explanation makes more sense then the ASA rulebook. Its a little confusing to me. When it says "No runner shall be removed from the base occupied except the batter runner who has been taken off the base by the umpire as in (2) above to bat in the proper place", I was interpreting that to mean that the batter-runner should only be removed to bat if he was the proper batter (i.e. the one after the batter called out failing to bat).

I don't think it is the book that's confusing

If appealed properly, there was no BR to bring back because, upon the appeal, the most recent play with the exception of any outs is negated. All offensive players return to their position at the TOP That includes the person who put the ball into play.