DISHONEST?....ILLEGAL?....

[whiskers_ump]

ASA Tournament - 18U
Coach uses a pinch hitter, forgets to officially
enter her in the lineup. She makes an out. Coach
re-enters starter into game. (At this point it is
an unreported substitute that no one had noticed.
Since she was not legally entered, two innings later
coach enters her as a pinch hitter for different
starter, this time announcement is made to PU and
official scorer, she now legal substitute. No one
on opposing team challenges move. Batter delivers
winning hit. Sleeping opponents? If caught, she
is disqualified, then when entered into game again
if caught, game would be forfeit. Guess it pays to
keep or have some keep a scorebook in or near dugout.
Honesty may not be as important as winning to some.

[Bandit]

I understand how the player could be inserted into the game as a unreported runner and possible be gotten away with...but how does the umpire allow her to be used as a "reported" substitute at any point in the game when she was not on the line-up card in the beginning ?? During my pregame I always look at the line-up card verify any use of extra players (DP, DH, EP, ect.) and then give the card back to the team coach or rep and tell them to please ck it and that when they give it back to me a second time it will become a official...Am I missing something ???

[whiskers_ump]

Bandit,
Player was on line-up card, violating coach
just never told anyone that she was entering
game. Umpire was unaware new batter, and
opposing team did not catch it. Guess score
keeper asleep when new number batted?

[IRISHMAFIA]

While substitutes are to be listed on a line-up card, failure to do so does not disqualify a legal roster player from taking part in a game.

When the coach gave a re-entry, the umpire should have asked for whom. That would have legitimized the substitute AND make the umpire, and probably the coach, aware of what just happened. Then, when the second attempt occured, good preventive officiating would have prevented the illegal substitution to occur.

[whiskers_ump]

Coach guilty of making the changes, never included
the umpire. Since he forgot to tell umpire of the
original pinch hitter, he did not mention the re-
entry either. When he used the same player later,
is the first time that the umpire was advised of
a substitution. Coach approached me at another game
to find out if his action were legal. Originial
umpire in that game never knew that the girl had once
batted, then couple innings later was entered a
second time. He was only given the one change. So
it appears that opposing team was not keeping score
book, or just failed to recognize the new player.