The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Dec 08, 2005, 08:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NW PA
Posts: 146
As a umpire who does softball and baseball what do you think are the biggest diffences in calling balls and strikes between these two sports?
And if you do both sports how do you handle the differences.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 09, 2005, 07:00am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: north central Pa
Posts: 2,360
I've made it clear to assignors that I am a softball umpire who will do baseball games only if absolutely needed. Very little difference in plate work. The preferred mechanics are different, but I pretty much use softball mechanics. As far as the pitches go, baseballs break down, even when they curve. Softball pitches break much more, much harder, and in more directions.

Between the 2 games, my biggest struggle is working the bases in a baseball game. I hate being inside the diamond in games where they use metal bats.

Where in Pa? I'm in district 4.
__________________
Steve M
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 09, 2005, 11:02am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 414
The biggest difference is the breaking pitch. If you are not "generous" with your strike zone in baseball...you will be there forever. Also I firmly believe baseball needs to remember there IS a letter high strike.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 09, 2005, 06:31pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NW PA
Posts: 146
I'm in District X for baseball and softball and District IX for wrestling.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 09, 2005, 07:36pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: north central Pa
Posts: 2,360
OK, so you're out near Clarion? I get out there for a college clinic each year - and I get south of you, in Cranberry for a summer tournament. Your district softball interp is a friend - I think that's Blackman.
__________________
Steve M
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 09, 2005, 08:36pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Germantown, TN (east of Memphis)
Posts: 783
By far, the biggest difference is that you MUST call the "high strike" in softball. They expect it!

The baseball people will simply adjust to whether you call the "high strike" or not. They seem to accept that some umpires call it and some umpires don't.

But the softball strikezone is defined differently, allowing for a considerably higher strike.

Take a pitch thrown at the level of a batter's solarplex. In baseball, that could be a strike or not. Just be consistent and the teams will adjust.

In softball, call that a ball and there will be an uprising. And you should even go HIGHER which, in baseball, is getting close to unreasonable.

You have to call it the high strike in softball.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Sat Dec 10, 2005, 06:58pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NW PA
Posts: 146
I guess what is tough for me is knowing I'm calling the front of the batter for the strike zone for softball.It's a little bit easier in my opinion doing baseball.What I have a BLAST doing is trying to keep my strike zones consitant while switching back and forth between both sports. Sometimes doing it a couple of times a week.

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Sun Dec 11, 2005, 12:12pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
What does " calling the front of the batter for the strike zone for softball" mean?
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Dec 12, 2005, 09:39am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 4,387
Quote:
Originally posted by David Emerling
Take a pitch thrown at the level of a batter's solarplex. In baseball, that could be a strike or not. Just be consistent and the teams will adjust.

In softball, call that a ball and there will be an uprising. And you should even go HIGHER which, in baseball, is getting close to unreasonable.

Around here, at the higher levels of FP (HS Varsity and College), you call a strike any higher and then you will have your uprising. Most accept that the top of the ball hitting just below the letters is the top end of the strike zone.
__________________
Scott


It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Dec 12, 2005, 11:52am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally posted by Skahtboi


Around here, at the higher levels of FP (HS Varsity and College), you call a strike any higher and then you will have your uprising. Most accept that the top of the ball hitting just below the letters is the top end of the strike zone.
All the more reason to call the high one in the REAL zone.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1