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Fri Aug 26, 2005, 02:49pm
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I need clarification on this. I believe the effect is worded incorrectly. The rule states....
Section 7. The Runner is out.... E. When anyone other than another runner physically assists a runner while the ball is in play. The Effect is... The ball is in play and the the runner is out. In D and E, the runner passing or assisting is called out. I believe the word "assisting" should be replaced with the word "assisted". Am I correct that the wording of this rule allows for a runner to be assisted by another runner, but not by a coach. For example, if B1 falls down between 2nd and 3rd and is assisted up by the Batter Runner, this is allowed. No one is out for assistance. However if B1 fell down while rounding 3rd and was assisted by the coach, then B1 would be out. Also, the case plays seem to support my position. They have several where a runner is assisted by the coach and is called out. I couldn't find a case play where the runner is assisted by another runner. There might be one. I just may have over looked it.
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Fri Aug 26, 2005, 08:55pm
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Very po9ssible I am missing what you are asking here.
True, a runner is out if assisted by a coach. True, a runner may be assisted by another runner, active runner, not one that has already scored. D. Replies to the passing E. Replies to when anyone other than another runner assists a runner. You said you could not find a case book ruling. Not all situtations are cover my CB Rulings. Puzzled.
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Fri Aug 26, 2005, 10:00pm
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"Assisting" is a mistake. It should indeed be "assisted."
Yes, another (active) runner can assist. However, the rule says "anyone other than another runner," so I guess if F6 helps the runner up or pushes him toward a base, the runner is out.
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Sat Aug 27, 2005, 07:32am
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Sat Aug 27, 2005, 11:06am
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Nope, 10.1.L covers that.
I would apply 10.1.L there also, or I would argue that the obvious implication of the rule is "any member of the offensive team other than another runner." But does 10.1.L also cover the following situation? Abel on 3B, Baker on 2B, Charles on 1B, 1 out. Daniels hits a hard one-hopper to F6 and stumbles getting out of the box. F6 steps on 2B to force Charles for the second out. Speedy Abel crosses the plate as F6 takes his time making a sure throw to 1B. It appears that Daniels will be out by several steps, but Charles reaches up and catches F6's throw to F3. By rule, the runner closest to home (Baker) is out on Charles's interference. Since the third out is not a force play, Abel's run should count. If I were umpiring this game, I would apply 10.1.L and call Daniels out instead. (An argument could also be made that Charles interfered with the defense's opportunity to get an advantageous fourth out.) Would anyone rule differently?
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