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0balls2strikes Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:14am

R1 on first base. Batter line drives a ball to the second baseman. The 2nd baseman makes the catch. r1 has come off the base. 2nd baseman throws ball to 1st baseman to pick runner off without taging. r1 is returning to 1st base. Ball misses 1st baseman and goes into a dead ball territory. Do you reward runner 2nd or 3rd? Is ruling different from asa,nfhs,and ncaa? or all the same.

TexBlue Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:28am

In ASA, Federation and PONY, you award 2 bases and allow the runner to complete their base running responsibilities. The runner would wind up on 3rd.

Can't help you with the other sets of rules.

0balls2strikes Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:35am

the only question i have is i cant remember who or where i heard/read it but in some cases i thought that you award the base they are going to plus one. now if that is a false statement than awesome, i would just like some clarification.

U_of_I_Blue Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:56am

That's one of those "coachisms" or "fanisms" if you will, that we hear so much of. I believe ISF may follow that procedure, but under all other codes (ASA, FED, NSA) it's 2 bases, period. Runner must complete his/her baserunning responsibilities by tagging up in this case, but she's awarded third base.

Ok, so it's U-trip, not ISF that uses that phiolosophy. All other codes, 2 bases.

Edited to coorect ISF statement

[Edited by U_of_I_Blue on Aug 10th, 2005 at 01:21 PM]

Andy Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:17am

Quote:

Originally posted by 0balls2strikes
the only question i have is i cant remember who or where i heard/read it but in some cases i thought that you award the base they are going to plus one. now if that is a false statement than awesome, i would just like some clarification.
I believe that this is a USSSA ruling. I am not absolutely certain, since I do not call U-Trip, but it seems that I have read that on one of these boards somewhere.

I think we have a few blues (or "reds" :))that regularly call U-Trip on the board, maybe they can provide a definitive answer.

baldgriff Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:24am

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy
Quote:

Originally posted by 0balls2strikes
the only question i have is i cant remember who or where i heard/read it but in some cases i thought that you award the base they are going to plus one. now if that is a false statement than awesome, i would just like some clarification.
I believe that this is a USSSA ruling. I am not absolutely certain, since I do not call U-Trip, but it seems that I have read that on one of these boards somewhere.

I think we have a few blues (or "reds" :))that regularly call U-Trip on the board, maybe they can provide a definitive answer.

In USSSA they would get 2nd. Retouch counts as the base they were going too.

Roger Greene Wed Aug 10, 2005 06:50pm

Utrip only uses the one + one in slow pitch. Not fast pitch.

I don't do slow pitch.

whiskers_ump Wed Aug 10, 2005 08:10pm

Agree with Roger, same as rest.....


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